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Re:YouTube to kill IE6 support on March 13 by jdietrich on Tuesday February 23, 2010 @09:41PM (#1147105)
I think a lot of us are expecting something to finally kill off IE6 and I don't think that's really going to happen. I think the watershed will be when most developers just stop caring. I think that this move is an indication that more of us should consider that option. Google is an incredibly smart company with a truly vast user base and this announcement shows that they just don't care about alienating IE6 users. Given their obsessive attitude to testing, I can only assume that they've worked out that pissing off the few remaining IE6 users with nag screens and bugs is cheaper than continuing to support them.

Of course Google have other interests in pushing modern browsers, but I would be flabbergasted if they haven't done a rigourous cost/benefit analysis on the decision. Given their economies of scale, I think this is an indication to those of us with more limited resources that we should just ignore IE6 users unless we have strong evidence that they matter. In the Pareto sense, it's just not a good use of developer time.

I have no evidence for it, but I have an intuitive expectation that IE6 users are generally bad customers - I would expect that they demand more customer support, are less likely to pay for online services, are more likely to contribute negatively to communities etc. Of course there are plenty of users who are stuck on IE6 because of bad corporate IT policy, but there are plenty who are too lazy or uninformed to upgrade their browser and frankly I don't want that kind of person as a customer.

Re:YouTube to kill IE6 support on March 13 by TheTarquin on Tuesday February 23, 2010 @11:10PM (#1147236)
To be honest, I don't think that the day when "most developers just stop caring" will actually kill IE6. I work making custom web-based help systems and most of our clients (who aren't software firms) base their browser support requirements on market share. We base our browser support requirements on their requirements. So until fewer people use IE6. As of last month, IE6 still has 10% of the market share (source: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp).

So many companies won't ditch IE6 until fewer people use it. Of course, the surest way to get IE6 users to upgrade is for support to die. Thus the IE6 snake of suckitude begins to eat its own tail.

It could well be that it won't be until their hardware dies and they're forced to get a new computer that a lot of people will upgrade their browser.

Re:YouTube to kill IE6 support on March 13 by benologist on Wednesday February 24, 2010 @03:30AM (#1147579)
Getting browser marketshare stats from W3Schools is like getting os marketshare stats from Ubuntu.com. It's a very specific site with a very specific audience that is far from representative.
Re:YouTube to kill IE6 support on March 13 by jdietrich on Wednesday February 24, 2010 @12:19PM (#1148469)
The only relevant stats are your own logs. It doesn't matter what the internet at large is using, any more than the kind of cars they drive in China matters to a mechanic in Ohio. Browser stats vary enormously from site to site and app to app for obvious demographic reasons.

As I said in my first post, I don't think IE6 will be killed off, just that most developers will stop caring unless they have a real reason not to. Someone developing an app to order for a corporate client will continue caring for a long time yet, but for most of us it is dwindling rapidly as an issue.

Re:YouTube to kill IE6 support on March 13 by TheTarquin on Wednesday February 24, 2010 @12:05PM (#1148430)
Out of curiosity, what's a more reliable or representative source for browser share information?

Here's a TechCrunch article that actually quotes IE6's browser share at 20% - http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/02/internet-explorer-browser-s...

Re:YouTube to kill IE6 support on March 13 by benologist on Wednesday February 24, 2010 @01:28PM (#1148671)
Any of the big guys tracking across a huge range of sites is generally alright, although your own personal stats are what ultimately matters - depending on who your audience is you might have 99% of your users using a browser traditionally regarded to have single digit market share.