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Re:Newspapers slam ex-Mozilla CEO's new ad-blocking browser by onion2k on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:55AM (#11461787)
If you push out content and you can't make money on it without ads, then that content didn't need to be created in the first place. The argument then devolves to "there won't be any good content" but I'll _gladly_ roll the dice on that world to see what we're left with.

It'd be interesting to see if that's true for very many people. As an experiment, we could take a fork of good quality ad-blocker and change the way that it works so that rather than blocking the advert content when it detects an ad on a page it blocks the entire page.

That way users who don't want to reward content creators with money from adverts would no longer see the content they're refusing to pay for. And if the content creator gives users the option to pay instead of seeing adverts then a simple direct payment would make the site work because the ad blocker would no longer block anything.

I'm actually tempted to give that a try to see what impact it has on my browsing.

Re:Newspapers slam ex-Mozilla CEO's new ad-blocking browser by hkmurakami on Saturday April 09, 2016 @12:05PM (#11461834)
Forbes implemented this and so far none of their articles were worth reopening in an ad block enabled browser for me.
Re:Newspapers slam ex-Mozilla CEO's new ad-blocking browser by jasonkostempski on Saturday April 09, 2016 @01:21PM (#11462197)
I'm not sure this is what very many people would want but I'd rather know ahead of time if a link on my screen goes to a site with tracking based ads or malware and I'd like an indication on the link itself so I can choose to not even click it. I image WSJ would change it's behavior very quickly if it knew a lot of internet users never even see the WSJ name because everything that links to them is blacked out on users screens. As soon as they start just putting in old fashioned natively hosted ads, they can be removed from the list and start appearing on people's screens again. Sure, they don't get to target ads to specific users; they don't get to just drop a script in a page and collect cash; they have to do a bunch of extra work to find advertisers; and there will have to be some trust between content providers and advertisers when it comes to presenting the ads. They already have all these concerns with the print version so they should know how to handle them. They lose their free lunch but they never had an inalienable right to it in the first place. Small shops would have a much harder time getting started as well but I think it would greatly reduce garbage.

I don't really expect everyone to be willing to immediately block themselves from even seeing links to Content Provider X but I think it would benefit all users in the long run if a good chunk of people did it.

Re:Newspapers slam ex-Mozilla CEO's new ad-blocking browser by vr3690 on Saturday April 09, 2016 @12:01PM (#11461813)
Oh that sounds like a good idea. It's kind of like watching a movie. You don't see it unless you buy tickets or paying too see through other media.

It would be helpful to see reviews of the content before you pay for it, like we have rotten tomatoes or imdb.

That definitely sounds like an interesting idea

Re:Newspapers slam ex-Mozilla CEO's new ad-blocking browser by azamat-bagatov on Saturday April 09, 2016 @11:59AM (#11461806)
Re:Newspapers slam ex-Mozilla CEO's new ad-blocking browser by mikegioia on Saturday April 09, 2016 @01:20PM (#11462188)
> As an experiment, we could take a fork of good quality ad-blocker and change the way that it works so that rather than blocking the advert content when it detects an ad on a page it blocks the entire page

That is a fantastic idea. Someone else mentioned Forbes and I just back out of their site when I see the full-page ad.