Re:YouTube-dl: Open-source YouTube downloader
by mozumder on Friday April 08, 2016 @04:54AM
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OK then you definitely haven't met my family members, who routinely can't log in because they have the caps-lock on.
Re:YouTube-dl: Open-source YouTube downloader
by madez on Friday April 08, 2016 @06:41AM
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He is saying that they can't login when the caps-lock is on because they don't care enough. I think he is right. Even old people are able to do complex stuff, but only if they care.
Re:YouTube-dl: Open-source YouTube downloader
by chriswarbo on Friday April 08, 2016 @07:14AM
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I agree. I think it's important to keep track of who cares about the user's task too. As you say, if the user cares about a task, they'll jump through many hoops to get it done. Especially when money is involved (e.g. finding cracked copy of XYZ to avoid paying license fee)
When someone else wants the user to do a task, e.g. a business wants users to install and use its software, then it's definitely better to assume that users will give up at minor annoyances or complications. Again, especially when money is involved; i.e. it should be as easy as possible for people to give you money.
Re:YouTube-dl: Open-source YouTube downloader
by JustSomeNobody on Friday April 08, 2016 @10:33AM
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I think this nails it.
They want to learn email? They do.
They want to learn to use FaceBook? They do.
If they really wanted to learn to download YouTube videos (Ideally using youtube-dl), they would.
Re:YouTube-dl: Open-source YouTube downloader
by jmnicolas on Friday April 08, 2016 @09:02AM
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> I guess it is better now but for a long time you had to do some port forwarding
Nothing has changed for me. Did I miss something ?
Same: many people still use peer-to-peer software to download movies, mostly porn. I guess it is better now but for a long time you had to do some port forwarding -- yes, port forwarding -- on your home router to get bearable download speed. Nowadays it still seem very difficult to get the proper non English subtitles for movies, but it is very attractive so people do it despite all the "steps".
So, please, let's stop this "Family memebers are below-two-clicks stupid" mantra. It is false. The truths is: they usually do not care enough for the second click. When they do care enough, typing a command line is very feasible.