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Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by qznc on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @12:41PM (#11431925)
If they really have a reelection it is quite likely that the Pirate Party will win. That would be awesome!

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/717337076807639040

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by levemi on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @02:07PM (#11432821)
It bothers me that the options for office are untrustworthy career politicians who lie and corrupt their position or naive single issue ideologues who understand too little and expect too much. I kind of wish politics was boring. Just vote for the boring candidates who know how to do their job and are happy with an average salary. Bureaucrats, but competent ones.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by ihsw on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @03:09PM (#11433389)
The Pirate Party is hardly single-issue:

> Pirate Party is a label adopted by political parties in different countries. Pirate parties support civil rights, direct democracy and participation in government, reform of copyright and patent law, free sharing of knowledge (open content), information privacy, transparency, freedom of information, anti-corruption and network neutrality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by zby on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @04:20PM (#11434011)
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by deepnet on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @05:44PM (#11434784)
The Icelandic Pirate Party is notable in the very high quality and integrity of its MP's.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by deepnet on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @05:40PM (#11434740)
In reality the Civil Service runs a country.

Politicians are mainly meddling chumps. Like new managers constantly ordering sweeping changes but hardly aware of how things are implemented on the ground.

Inventing feel good stats which are juked.

The old BBC series Yes, Minister is the most realistic depiction of politics.

Blind trust of authority is all too commonplace; the default should be mistrust of those who wield power.

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by testrun on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @09:14PM (#11435907)
Not quite, those meddling chumps write the laws, which the bureaucrats implements.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by riffraff on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @02:26AM (#11437006)
They actually don't, as very few MPs have the necessary legal qualifications. So staff, writes it. It isn't uncommon for legislators to be unable to grasp details of the things they propose.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by deepnet on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @09:30PM (#11435960)
Unfortunately lobbyists write much of the legislation these days.

Otherwise legal and permanent secretaries ( civil servants ) draft laws and parliaments ( congress ) debate and amend them.

I conceed the executive branch does propose the policy and ideas on which they are based.

I am all for legislatures ( parliaments ) and elected representatives but the executive ( govt. ) seems to increasingly be at odds with the citizenry and serve those who fund their election or pad their retirements with directorships.

Sure have govt. just much less of it - there are far too many laws and far too many bad laws.

Fewer better, well considered laws, informed by public debate.

Really watch a couple of episodes of Yes Minister, that shows how it works not how they say it works.

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by arnarbi on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @02:24PM (#11432991)
Better yet, change the tradition such that the elected MPs don't pick themselves as cabinet members, but hire competent professionals in each field.

In Iceland, no laws nor articles of constitution need to change to do this. All we need is a parliament majority that does it.

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by nroets on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @04:07PM (#11433902)
Yes, get a property mogul as your chief executive! I suspect that Donald Trump will be available early next year.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by 794CD01 on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @03:42PM (#11433681)
Politicians aren't like that because people aren't like that. What you are looking for is more of a bureaucratic dictatorship like Singapore's.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by eru on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:46PM (#11444029)
At least at its best. They don't always reach that ideal. (Eg when they do some funky monkeying with the media and censorship.)
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by prawn on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @08:22PM (#11435703)
I wonder how realistic AI politicians are?

Which set of algorithms do you want to vote for?

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by brianclements on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:08AM (#11437388)
I think AI politicians or complex algorithms just risk being a more complicated form of legalese that even less people can understand (legalese in code/math form). With law in code form like that, you need to demand much more of the education system (scary!) to allow people to vote on PRs, if you even do that democratically. Otherwise, even more faith is put in the hands of the designers/core-maintainers as representatives, much like we already have. More ways to obfuscate direct effects and hide side-effects.

I truly think there is something there though, something from the open-source process that can make government more efficient and productive, but it's probably not in the way we are thinking. It probably looks less like software maintenance and more like science, dare I say political science. Crowd-source solutions and organize experiments across counties and states in a way that's data driven, not politics and need-for-reelection driven.

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by eru on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:49PM (#11444040)
You imght like to learn about Futarchy: https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/futarchy.html

No AI necessary.

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by Rodeoclash on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @08:34PM (#11435753)
Just make a pull request with the law you want to implement or amend
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by unexistance on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @02:54AM (#11437102)
another way to 'use' github I guess :D or plain git?
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by mmanfrin on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @05:34PM (#11434704)
Can someone tell me that the independence party (with 1/4th the vote) is for? Iceland became independent 98 years ago. Is it an anti-EU party?
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by haraldurt on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @05:52PM (#11434830)
Iceland became independent in 1945[0]; in 1918 Iceland became a sovereign state under the rulership of the Danish king[1].

The Independence Party is center-right (very conservative for Iceland) and was formed in 1929 advocating for full independence of Iceland. They haven't changed their name since. It's been one of the four major political parties of Iceland since inception and more often then not the largest; every head of the party has been prime minister at some point (except the current one; that might change in the next week as they are in coalition with the just-resigned prime ministers party and there is a void to fill). In short you could say that they are pro-business and for smaller government. The overview here [2] is a good start, but you can go straight to the source here (english below) [3].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_of_the_Republic_of_Ic...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish%E2%80%93Icelandic_Act_o...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Party_%28Iceland%...

[3] http://www.xd.is/um-sjalfstaedisflokkinn/

Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by semi-extrinsic on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @06:11PM (#11434970)
Political party names can be fun. In both Norway and Denmark there are liberalist right-wing parties called "Venstre", which literally means "left" (as in left-wing). Because they were, relatively speaking, left-wing 130 years ago.
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by girvo on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @01:37AM (#11436822)
In Australia, some (including myself) would argue that our Liberal party is decidedly not very liberal...
Re:Icelandic Prime Minister Resigns After Panama Data Leak by eru on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:50PM (#11444048)
Not even in the old sense of the word.