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Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by maxerickson on Monday April 04, 2016 @10:55AM (#11422315)
$5000 of solar panels in the office parking lot and you get almost 0 draw from the grid for the commute.

I guess that doesn't compare favorably to $600 (~200*$3) per year for fuel, but it isn't real far out either.

Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by mtgx on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:01AM (#11422352)
Solar installations will double every two years (globally), so let's hope that will be enough to keep up with EV growth.

I still think the bigger bottleneck will be the installation of chargers, though, even though it shouldn't be because they aren't that expensive. But Tesla is just one small car maker installing its own, and the other manufacturers don't seem all that interested in building them for the same reason they've been rather slow in pushing EVs on the market, too. I think governments should have a bigger role in building EV infrastructure.

Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by maxerickson on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:24AM (#11422580)
I think the real issue is that the 1 charge range is not yet all that attractive, especially given the cost of the vehicles. As range goes up and price comes down, demand for chargers will increase (that demand can be coming from people who'd like to buy an electric, it doesn't have to be owners).
Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by JoeAltmaier on Monday April 04, 2016 @10:58AM (#11422338)
Gas is $2 right?
Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by toomuchtodo on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:00AM (#11422346)
Temporarily. You successfully tell me where oil prices are going to be in a year, and you'll be the richest person in the world.

http://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-char...

Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by cubano on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:51AM (#11422807)
It seems unlikely that the price of gas will be able to go much higher than the US fracking break-even point, which seems to be around $25/bbl. [1]

But yes who knows...coming regulations may change that number significantly.

www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/12/crude-oil-price-still-crashing-toward-25-breakeven/

Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by YesProcrast on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:27AM (#11422610)
Between $1 and $1000.

How do I collect?

Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by maxerickson on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:30AM (#11422630)
Arbitrage the accuracy of your prediction against the oil futures market.

There's an implicit requirement for a useful prediction of the price in the GP comment.

Re:The Problem with Electric Vehicles by maxerickson on Monday April 04, 2016 @11:04AM (#11422399)
Neither number is intended to be all that precise. In a sunny spot, the $5000 would probably be quite a bit more than 1 kilowatt of output. It should anyway probably be 250+ days, so I accidentally controlled for that error.

I would certainly factor the different cost structures in if I was doing the calculation for real (gas could be $4 in a couple years, who knows).