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Re:Welcome to the Future: Middle-Class Housing Projects by jseliger on Saturday April 02, 2016 @05:47PM (#11413636)
We must fight to desegregate our cities. The middle class is suffering not because they can't afford to outbid the rich, but because it's illegal to outbid the rich.

No: The middle class is suffering because it's illegal to building housing for them. See http://jakeseliger.com/2015/09/24/do-millennials-have-a-futu... or The Rent Is Too Damn High http://www.amazon.com/TheRent-Too-Damn-High-Matters-ebook/dp....

If you restrict the supply of a good in the face of increasing demand, prices rise. The rest is commentary.

Re:Welcome to the Future: Middle-Class Housing Projects by jordanb on Saturday April 02, 2016 @06:04PM (#11413719)
You're violently agreeing. The point is, you take a large lot, you could build a condo building on it with five units, or you could build a large SFU. The OP's argument is five middle class people could outbid the rich guy. Except that the condo is illegal, the area is zoned for single family.

Another issue here is the wealth disparity. I think your typical millionaire could easily outbid five middle class families or even ten middle class families.

Re:Welcome to the Future: Middle-Class Housing Projects by 46Bit on Saturday April 02, 2016 @07:09PM (#11414015)
> Another issue here is the wealth disparity. I think your typical millionaire could easily outbid five middle class families or even ten middle class families.

They often could, but would they choose to? Less trivially.

Re:Welcome to the Future: Middle-Class Housing Projects by Eridrus on Saturday April 02, 2016 @07:19PM (#11414053)
Assuming they did not have to abide by height restrictions, why wouldn't they?
Re:Welcome to the Future: Middle-Class Housing Projects by natrius on Saturday April 02, 2016 @06:00PM (#11413699)
We're saying the same thing. I've found that it's harder to convince people when I talk about buildings and economics, so I talk about the families our laws prevent from living in our neighborhoods.
Re:Welcome to the Future: Middle-Class Housing Projects by cloakandswagger on Saturday April 02, 2016 @06:01PM (#11413703)
Great write up on the subject Jake. Sadly, I think your hypothesis that emotional arguments will always drown out rational ones is correct.

Too many of the self-described progressives in places like Seattle and San Francisco are too entrenched to admit that market forces (or more accurately, the resistance of them) is the real problem.