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Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by sp332 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:06AM (#11411367)
Geez, if I put all my high school books in my bag it weighed 40 pounds (I measured it once). And the cold weather means walking wasn't always an option.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by mikeash on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:18AM (#11411397)
I went to high school in Wisconsin and walking was always an option. We did close schools when the temperature dropped below -40, though.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by liveoneggs on Saturday April 02, 2016 @10:32AM (#11411646)
uphill both ways and everything?
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by analog31 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @12:54PM (#11412200)
I live in Wisconsin and ride my bike to work throughout the year. Amusingly, it's often up-wind both ways, because the wind changes direction during the day. My kids walk or bike to school, or take the city bus.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by mikeash on Saturday April 02, 2016 @05:03PM (#11413432)
No, it was pretty flat. I'm amused that this sounds improbable, though. Cold isn't that big of an obstacle. I hated Wisconsin winters, but it's just a matter of dressing properly.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by halomru on Saturday April 02, 2016 @10:38AM (#11411675)
>And the cold weather means walking wasn't always an option.

Walking works great even when the roads are unusable for cars. The only relevant limit to walking in the winter is your clothing.

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by sp332 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @12:11PM (#11412029)
And every kid just gets frostbite as a learning experience? Been there done that, got the scar for it. Not something I would want for my kids, thanks.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by kuschku on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:14AM (#11411389)
I lived 2km from my primary school, and 4km from my middle and high school. My school bag was 16kg.

And it was easily possible to walk there, or later, bike there. (although I had to walk every now and so often when my bike broke down in -14°C in winter).

I don’t really see where the issue is?

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by pragone on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:17AM (#11411394)
Different cultures I guess. I definitely would not have done that as a kid, my parents wouldn't have allowed me to, and someone would have called the police if they saw a 10y/o walking along these roads
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by analog31 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @01:02PM (#11412239)
It must be culture, at least in areas where walking to school is pretty convenient. Anecdote: When I was growing up, I walked to elementary school, all of five or six neighborhood blocks. The one kid who got driven to school, got teased for it.

Today, same school, same neighborhood, is a traffic jam every morning, as the kids are all driven to school. I could very well imagine parents saying that it's no longer safe to walk, due to the traffic. :-(

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by kuschku on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:24AM (#11411412)
Probably. Here everyone did it, alone at my school we had 700 kids each morning coming by bike or foot. Out of 1200.

It was literally impossible to drive on the road for cars during the half hour each morning and afternoon where we kids were there.

Similar to Amsterdam or København

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by sp332 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:32AM (#11411432)
Aren't you worried about stress fractures in your feet? Especially since your bones were still growing at the time?
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by superuser2 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @09:48AM (#11411494)
2km. 1.24 miles? Stress fractures? What?

Every student on a residential college campus that's bigger than tiny is going to walk 3 or 4 times that in a day. Middle school students will stress their bodies a few orders of magnitude harder in sports practices (or even light exercise).

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by kuschku on Saturday April 02, 2016 @10:07AM (#11411563)
Why would I? Humans are built for walking, this is literally what we evolved to do.

4km a day, or later 8km a day is nothing, and has never caused me or anyone else I know – and literally every child here does this – any issues.

Even today, when I’m bored and I know the bus will only come in 30min, I usually just walk 6km home from uni.

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I’m not even sure if your comment isn’t just satire, exaggerating the helicopter-mentality of some northamerican parents.

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by sp332 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @12:08PM (#11412021)
I've always had problems with my feet and legs, so I'm probably just paranoid about it. No way I could walk that much on a regular basis without surgery.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by pc86 on Monday April 04, 2016 @10:20AM (#11422040)
If you can't walk the equivalent of five lengths around a standard track without stress fractures you have a serious, debilitating disease and should see a doctor immediately.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by sp332 on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:34PM (#11423196)
Isn't a standard track only ~a quarter mile (400m)? With a 40 lb pack, twice a day, plus hills, on young bones, with poor judgment about balance and weight placement, someone's going to get hurt. Stress fractures didn't seem implausible, though I suppose ligament injuries are more likely?

And yes, every specialist I've been to has said all I can do is try to protect my joints until I eventually decide I want surgery.

Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by avip on Saturday April 02, 2016 @04:32PM (#11413277)
Luxury!
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by smileysteve on Saturday April 02, 2016 @11:27AM (#11411843)
The opportunity to learn here is prioritization and utilization. Will you need all books at home today, can I do this homework at school during lunch, study hall, or before after?
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by sp332 on Saturday April 02, 2016 @12:21PM (#11412083)
I wouldn't need all books all days, but some days I did. I didn't usually have a study hall. I'm not sure what learning has to do with it? I don't control how much homework gets assigned or when.
Re:Schools Are Slow to Learn That Sleep Deprivation Hits Tee... by caffinatedmonk on Saturday April 02, 2016 @12:56PM (#11412212)
I'm a Junior in highschool and I have the same problems. Some teachers require you to bring all your books to their class every day. Others usually use textbook information to create PowerPoints which they use in class but it is still useful to have the textbook open to learn all the information which they skip. Students usually avoid carrying around textbooks by leaving most of their books in their lockers at school for most of the year but this makes it hard to study outside of school. They also cram all their homework during studyhalls and copy homework from others instead of actually studying though.