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Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by exelius on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @11:28AM (#11389987)
> Lest you jump to the argument that this would endanger operations, I would still point out two very salient facts: this information is not intelligence data, and as Schneier pointed out, this attack can be used against many in the US government, including FBI agents in the field. Getting it fixed is the right thing to do.

I agree with you that given the facts we know today, notifying Apple is the right thing to do. But I also think the FBI should have some latitude in deciding what is in its best interest; and if they're making their own agents vulnerable to an exploit they know exists -- well, that's dumb and I hope it bites them in the ass.

Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by ryao on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @11:49AM (#11390156)
We do not even know if the FBI knows the vulnerability. The phone could have been attacked by a contractor working for the FBI without the contractor sharing the tools.
Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by camillomiller on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:32PM (#11392749)
This is a great point. Cellebrite's known for their black box approach. Law enforcements and Courts can send their locked iPhone and get it back unlocked. They'll just get the job done without knowing what was actually performed on the phone. This might as well be the case here.
Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by c22 on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @05:25PM (#11393147)
Doesn't this approach cast doubt on the legitimacy of any evidence obtained from the device?
Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by camillomiller on Thursday March 31, 2016 @02:50AM (#11395427)
Don't think so, it's basically like lock picking a suspect's apartment with a warrant. What is found should be valid evidence, no? Law enforcement can break the door or call a locksmith and pay him for his service. In this case Cellebrite's the locksmith.
Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by c22 on Thursday March 31, 2016 @09:57AM (#11397167)
That seems reasonable, but usually investigators would be on the scene while the locksmith works. If the process is a black box that happens while the device is in Cellebrite's possession isn't it more like calling up the locksmith from the precinct and saying "hey, could you open up the apartment at this address and call us when you're done? Don't go inside or touch anything though, thanks!" What prevents Cellebrite employees from planting or deleting evidence after the device is unlocked and before returning it? What guarantees are there that Cellebrite's unlocking process doesn't intentionally or unintentionally modify some other aspect of the device? Scouts honor? What if their process is to just flash a new rom filled with child porn and no passcode then skip merrily to the bank to cash their checks?
Re:Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI by camillomiller on Thursday March 31, 2016 @12:05PM (#11398177)
Yep, I understand that. I don't think that was posed as a problem in the Italian case I know of, although I think that in the U.S. rules on the chain of custody are stricter, indeed. That's a good point.