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Re:Ask HN: founders wants me to join for just equity, how mu... by hga on Friday February 19, 2010 @09:49AM (#1137011)
Yeah ... but their "ultra-strong backgrounds" and "major high-level contacts" aren't worth jack if the company's product(s) don't work.

(Well, they still might make some money off of them before they get caught out, but that sort of fraud, inadvertent as it might be, is not something you want to be associated with.)

The "technical employee" is a necessary (but not sufficient) part of their potential success, and getting the technology right is a lot harder than non-techies realize.

The biggest problem here, especially today, is that there are so many hungry people on the streets looking for work that your negotiating position isn't strong. On the other hand, if these non-techie founders truly are savvy they'll know there's not exactly a surplus of really good people to choose from....

My bottom line is that when non-technical founders devalue technical employees they also tend to devalue all the technical things that are needed to make the venture successful, and that that's a very bad environment in which to work.

Re:Ask HN: founders wants me to join for just equity, how mu... by grellas on Friday February 19, 2010 @10:15AM (#1137081)
In the case I mention, the lead founder was CTO of a multi-B company for over a decade (indeed, had been a key player in helping build it to that level) - he is technically savvy but just not doing that aspect of the work (at least at the detail level) in this company as he drives it. I don't think it is an issue of devaluing technical people (at least in honest situations) but just a matter of weighing relative contributions for a particular venture. Technical is not always foremost in what distinguishes a particular business model for success.
Re:Ask HN: founders wants me to join for just equity, how mu... by hga on Friday February 19, 2010 @02:35PM (#1137717)
"Technical is not always foremost in what distinguishes a particular business model for success."

Indeed, and if you're a disciple of Clayton The Innovator's Dilemma Christensen the technology itself often isn't what's so innovative as the use to which you put it.

But it still has to work ^_^. At least in this case we can have serious confidence that the once and future CTO will make sure it does.