Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by sokoloff on Saturday March 26, 2016 @11:00AM
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> wouldn’t consider it unfair if they releveraged their own primary residence to achieve a similar result.
Spot on! For the less finance lingo savvy, that simply means take a second mortgage/home equity loan or home equity line of credit (HELOC) for a vacation, to invest in another property, pay for college or other large expense, etc.
Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by hkmurakami on Saturday March 26, 2016 @11:59AM
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I completely agree.
Though for better or for worse, we seem to be headed towards an age of populism, which may actually start to affect the consensus manner in which the laws are read.
Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by nickpsecurity on Saturday March 26, 2016 @12:42PM
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You can make them illegal by making only one legal way to get money from person A to persons B. Anything over a certain amount per year, basically cost of living, gets taxed. It doesn't matter what path it took to get there.
And thanks for the article. :)
Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by charlesdm on Saturday March 26, 2016 @01:03PM
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So, if you make $100k per year (and you pay tax on that), and you then go borrow $500k to buy a house, you'd be happy paying tax on that $500k as well? And of course, you would need to repay that debt with after tax income, so you're paying tax twice. Because that's essentially what you're proposing. :)
Debt != income
Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by Godel_unicode on Saturday March 26, 2016 @04:13PM
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Mandatory H. L. Mencken quote.
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by nickpsecurity on Saturday March 26, 2016 @04:27PM
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Nah, Im pulling from high assurance safety and security fields. Only approaches that worked for long periods basically create a design that enforces specific, good properties in every state. Other commenters are talking failed route of open ended design that tries to guess every form of malice. It's whitelisting vs AV signatures.
Re:Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to ...
by nickpsecurity on Saturday March 26, 2016 @04:24PM
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Let's not make strawman. It's more like you made $500k in income, put that into an asset, borrowed it back, and spent it. That is income. Just not taxable like the rest of us.
People like talking about fair and unfair, and the “spirit of the law”, but that all means something completely different to whomever is reading the law. What might seem fair to someone, won’t seem fair to others. I would assume a ton of “normal” people (i.e non entrepreneurs, income tax paying people) consider the loan thing to be unfair, but wouldn’t consider it unfair if they releveraged their own primary residence to achieve a similar result.
Second, if governments want to limit tax avoidance, they should learn to make proper laws (i.e. no half way, rushing something out of the door). A lot of laws are made in a half assed way. Stuff like this comes to mind: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-11-03/malone-gai.... ("He avoided paying taxes on his remaining stake, worth about $260 million, by exploiting IRS regulations meant to block a different loophole.")