Re:Once thought safe, DDR4 memory shown to be vulnerable to ...
by nickpsecurity on Friday March 18, 2016 @02:23AM
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I noticed supercomputer vendors and Oracle are using ChipKill plus ECC. Does adding that change the results any or still reduce to DOS?
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Re:Once thought safe, DDR4 memory shown to be vulnerable to ...
by tdullien on Friday March 18, 2016 @02:46AM
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So I do not know (in the mathematical sense) that ChipKill won't create a problem, but I think it is unlikely.
In general, if the ECC infrastructure works (e.g. DRAM detecting bit corruption and reporting it to the OS), the odds of an attacker finding a piece of RAM that flips bits "just right" to bypass the checksumming without triggering a OS panic are low enough that I'd rather worry about software bugs.
DoS may still be a pretty viable attack, though.
Re:Once thought safe, DDR4 memory shown to be vulnerable to ...
by darkr on Friday March 18, 2016 @06:17AM
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Not just supercomputer vendors - Chipkill has been a standard option on IBM X-Series (their standard server range) for years now. I remember deploying a whole bunch of servers back 2011 or so that had it.
Re:Once thought safe, DDR4 memory shown to be vulnerable to ...
by baruch on Friday March 18, 2016 @02:58AM
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It can mitigate the DoS if you have enough spare RAM. if you are right on the edge that removed RAM will turn into an OOM condition and will become a DoS.
Re:Once thought safe, DDR4 memory shown to be vulnerable to ...
by nickpsecurity on Friday March 18, 2016 @12:54PM
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Appreciate everyone's insightful replies. :)