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Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by CamperBob2 on Thursday March 17, 2016 @08:42PM (#11308969)
With all of the points you raise, one wonders why the Googles and Apples and Microsofts and Y Combinators of the world are started here, and not in Finland or Norway or Denmark, or whatever culturally-homogeneous oil-rich welfare state you have in mind.

And why so many of the the Linus Torvaldses and Elon Musks of the world head for the US as soon as they're able to.

Maybe social justice -- or at least your idea of it -- isn't the last, best purpose of humanity after all.

Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by Futurebot on Thursday March 17, 2016 @11:02PM (#11309569)
The Nordics create plenty of innovative companies, and that seems to be increasing. Here are some examples:

http://www.demos.org/blog/3/16/16/nordic-innovation-argument...

Just a few example companies: Skype, Spotify, Mojang

Example technologies: Bluetooth, pacemaker, AIS (like GPS), first LTE system. More, just from Sweden: http://www.swedenabroad.com/ImageVaultFiles/id_19367/cf_347/...

As far as people coming to the US, there are totally understandable reasons. We have excellent universities, more people (which matters: bigger local market, larger talent pool, more companies to work for, etc.), and we also have legacy clustering effects (NYC for finance and ads, SV for chips and startups.) These advantages are obviously very significant. There's absolutely no reason we cannot combine those advantages, our highly entrepreneurial culture, and the best the Nordics have to offer to be even better; that's part of what the "Silicon Valley Democrat" idea is about, and influential people there support it (that's where the idea comes from, obviously.) Even YC is doing research into the GBI.

This implication here wasn't about that, though; it was about what we'll be forced to do if we don't want to simply leave the masses unemployed and eventually storming the metaphorical--or literal--gates. That will require some or all of the above list.

Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by solipsism on Friday March 18, 2016 @12:19AM (#11309872)
one wonders why the Googles and Apples and Microsofts and Y Combinators of the world are started here

Maybe social justice -- or at least your idea of it -- isn't the last, best purpose of humanity after all

Woah. Talk about a non-sequitor. What's one thing have to do with the other?

Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by CamperBob2 on Friday March 18, 2016 @01:03AM (#11310015)
The OP listed a number of social-justice related goals that s/he felt Google should strive for. That seems like an even greater non-sequitur to me; wouldn't you agree?

I responded by pointing out that Google was formed here, in the USA. The US is a country in which those values don't generally prevail and -- in any event -- where corporations are not responsible for upholding them.

I asked, more or less rhetorically, if there was perhaps a reason for that.

The OP responded by citing some counterexamples that more or less agree with my point, which I thought was an interesting way to argue. Skype was purchased by Microsoft (and let's not talk about Nokia, right?), while the founder of Mojang is living like a king of old Arabia in one of the most expensive homes ever sold in the US. We're apparently doing something right that those other countries are not.

Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by tamana on Friday March 18, 2016 @02:23AM (#11310257)
Congratulations, you live in a country where a few wealthy shareholders are capable of extracting value from the large majority of laborers. I guess that makes you great?
Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by CamperBob2 on Friday March 18, 2016 @03:47PM (#11314392)
No, but like just about everyone else in the US, I have more to lose from a class war than I would ever stand to gain.
Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by koide on Saturday March 19, 2016 @02:22AM (#11317568)
You are measuring the country over what the successful, rich people can do or have. What about the vast majority of the population?
Re:Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up for Sale in Robotics Retreat by CamperBob2 on Sunday March 20, 2016 @01:03AM (#11321889)
They're too busy playing Minecraft and yakking over Skype to care.

More seriously, it's pretty clear by this point that a rising tide lifts all boats, even under conditions of inequitable income distribution. I don't see anyone from the US trying to break into Cuba or Venezuela, do you?