Re:Ontario announces that it will begin a basic income trial...
by eru on Saturday March 12, 2016 @10:04PM
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You can set up your tax system to exactly mirror the net effects of UBI. Negative income tax is just one possible implementation of UBI.
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Re:Ontario announces that it will begin a basic income trial...
by aninhumer on Sunday March 13, 2016 @09:13AM
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Indeed. For example, the parent's suggested scheme is equivalent to a $15k basic income, with a 25% tax on earned income up to $60k.
The only real difference between the two is the constants each framing leads us towards. The above scheme is fairly mild, but if you shrink the window down to $30k, which initially sounds progressive (less money for richer people right?) you actually end up with the equivalent of a 50% tax band on income below $30k.
I prefer the Basic Income framing for this reason.
Re:Ontario announces that it will begin a basic income trial...
by CydeWeys on Sunday March 13, 2016 @05:06PM
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Yes, you figured out why I picked the numbers I did. It's somewhat surprising how high the full phase-out amount has to be for things to work: It basically needs to go to several times the poverty level in order to make the marginal taxation on poor people of acceptably low levels.