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Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kuschku on Friday March 11, 2016 @07:32PM (#11270626)
Well, the important difference is that German has actually simple, clean rules for spelling in those cases.

Why does english make a difference between housewive and middle school?

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kazinator on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:00PM (#11270730)
In many cases, words that linguists call "non-compositional compounds" end up, in English, as a single word.

For instance a "blackboard" isn't a "black board": it is not simply any old board that is black. I.e. the semantics of the composition is not the composition of the semantics.

Some compound words in English have a history which starts as two separate words, then later joined with a hyphen, an finally conjoined without a hyphen. This roughly follows their evolution into a non-compositional noun.

"Newspaper" was once "news-paper" for instance.

Words like "high school" are the unfortunate exceptions; a high school isn't a school which is high, yet it's written as if it were two words. It's certainly not spoken that way; there is a difference between "high class", "high seas", "high concept" and "high school". The "school" is uttered without the slightest pause in front of it, and de-emphasized. Exactly like "board" in "blackboard", or "wife" in "housewife".

For what it's worth, at least English orthography doesn't string together long runs of words into an undelimited string.

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by vacri on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:43PM (#11270873)
> a high school isn't a school which is high

High school is high. It's higher than middle or primary school. It's not 'geographically elevated', but that's not the only common meaning of high.

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kazinator on Friday March 11, 2016 @09:09PM (#11270964)
I probably won't convince you, but let me try to convey one more time that it functions as one word, thusly:

"My son is in /'haisku:l/."

"3800 feet up in the mountains? That sure is a /'ha:i/ /'sku:l/!"

In some languages, the word for word translation for high school refers to something else. E.g. the Slovak phrase "vysoká škola" literally means "high school" if taken word for word, but actually it refers to some post secondary higher education. This corresponds corresponds to the German word Hoschschule which looks like a cognate for "high school", but meaning-wise isn't. High school is called "stredná škola" which literally means "middle school"! (And the university-prep variety of such a school is also called "gymnázium", the cognate of which denotes a sports or exercise hall in English.)

So the "high" in "high school" is simply not directly informative; you only know what kind of school that refers to from your cultural knowledge and context.

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by Arnavion on Friday March 11, 2016 @09:52PM (#11271120)
I find it strange that you listed high school as being distinct from high class, when both have the same non-literal meaning of "high".

Maybe it's a cultural thing, but I pronounce both high class and high school without a pause, and with emphasis on both the high and the class / school.

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by jonsen on Saturday March 12, 2016 @03:49AM (#11271980)
Must be a highclass phenomenon.
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by onetimePete on Saturday March 12, 2016 @05:39AM (#11272281)
that's right, it describes the state of mind of half of its visitors ;)
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by ams6110 on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:10PM (#11270764)
I do sometimes see highschool written as one word.
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kazinator on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:14PM (#11270783)
I think it should be condoned and encouraged.
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by labster on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:22PM (#11270806)
This is doubleplusgood spellwise.
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kuschku on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:14PM (#11270785)
Well, German also often adds an s or n as delimiter in between.

Not as good as CamelCase, but easier to pronounce.

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by dublinben on Friday March 11, 2016 @07:40PM (#11270665)
Because the word housewife is hundreds of years old, and middle school isn't. Over time, compound nouns drift closer. They start out as two words, are then joined by a hyphen, and then become a single concatenated word.
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kazinator on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:06PM (#11270751)
Etymonline corroborates you; it places the origin of "housewife" in the 13th century.

(You would think there was basically no other kind of wife until well into the Industrial Revolution.)

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by usrusr on Saturday March 12, 2016 @08:15AM (#11272728)
Which kind of makes sense, since a housewife would not turn into a trailer wife when moving into one.
Re:Why the German language has so many great words by gandarojin on Saturday March 12, 2016 @08:37AM (#11272800)
> Well, the important difference is that German has actually simple, clean rules for spelling in those cases.

In German, there are the “Fugenlaute”, sounds that are inserted between the words that a compound is made of. And it is not always clear, what these sounds should be.

Some examples:

* “Schaden(s)ersatz” (compensation for damages) – some put an “s” between “Schaden” (damage) and “ersatz” (substitute), some don’t. * In the German constitution the word “verfassungsgebend” appears, but some would call it “verfassunggebend”.

There are even words that have a different meaning depending on the “Fugenlaute”:

* “Landsmann” / “Landmann” (Land = country / land; Mann = man): “Landsmann” is a man from the same country; a “Landmann” is a peasant or farmer.

There really aren’t “rules” that apply.

There is a lengthy article in the German Wikipedia about this topic: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugenlaut

Re:Why the German language has so many great words by kuschku on Saturday March 12, 2016 @09:54AM (#11273069)
Landsmann is NOT a Fugenlaut.

That’s a Genitiv.

For most cases, Fugenlaute are completely meaningless, and both spellings accepted.