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Re:Frameworks Don't Make Much Sense by ChrisDutrow on Friday March 11, 2016 @01:38PM (#11268593)
.NET is actually the framework that gave me such a bad taste for frameworks. It's important to note that my experience with it is from around 2010-2012 though so it could have gotten much better since.

The ORM in particular would sometimes cause me to write very inefficient queries. If I understood the ORM better, I probably could have avoided this, but I found it much easier to write a data layer that ran SQL queries directly and supplied the other layers with simple JSON-like objects.

Re:Frameworks Don't Make Much Sense by marcus_holmes on Friday March 11, 2016 @06:15PM (#11270264)
me too. EF was what caused me to (finally) dump the entire .Net ecosystem and start learning again from scratch with Linux.
Re:Frameworks Don't Make Much Sense by ChrisDutrow on Saturday March 12, 2016 @03:30PM (#11274394)
Yeah, most of the projects I've been working on lately wouldn't be possible with a licensed operating system. For me, working with linux is very difficult, but the capability far outweighs the difficulty. I don't catch on easily to concepts, commands, and multiple steps of such an advanced tool.