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Re:Frameworks Don't Make Much Sense by BinaryIdiot on Friday March 11, 2016 @05:01AM (#11265701)
> For that last 20%, they just get in the way and cause more problems than they solve.

If I had a nickel for every project I worked on that started using an ORM but eventually was forced to write actual SQL to cover those use cases the ORM just couldn't I'd be rich. In fact it's the number 1 reason I don't even bother with ORMs anymore.

If I abstract my data access to a set of APIs then all I have to do is reimplement the SQL or whatever behind each API when I need to move to a new storage system which usually ends up not being very difficult compared to the headaches of trying to get an ORM to cover that last 20%.

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Re:Frameworks Don't Make Much Sense by CuriouslyC on Friday March 11, 2016 @09:02AM (#11266615)
While I do write SQL during exploration, for the purposes of production systems I've never had a query that I haven't been able to represent using SQLAlchemy. The reason for this is that in addition to being an ORM, it exposes an object-oriented general SQL abstraction layer.
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