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Re:America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries... by PKop on Thursday March 10, 2016 @09:51PM (#11264336)
Whose judgement do you trust enough that you're willing to outsource this decision to? Would you let esaym teach your children what he thinks is important? What if he was your child's teacher?

At the end of the day you're placing your trust in someone. They are just going to teach your kids what they think is important. Are you not willing to have an opinion on whether they are choosing the right things to teach?

Re:America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries... by vectorjohn on Friday March 11, 2016 @03:47AM (#11265473)
No, wrong. They are going to teach what a large association of actual experts in education think they should teach. Of course you should trust the people that put as much or more effort into education as you did in becoming an expert in your field.

I think I heard something about how people that get a lot of expertise in one area like doctors, lawyers, programmers, tend to far overestimate their skills in unrelated things. Sounds like you and the OP fall into this logical trap.

Re:America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries... by camelite on Friday March 11, 2016 @08:17AM (#11266392)
The vast majority of people who style themselves as experts in education are worse than useless. You've chosen a poor discipline to outsource your critical thinking to.
Re:America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries... by vectorjohn on Friday March 11, 2016 @06:44PM (#11270433)
And you're basing that on... ? You being an expert? This is exactly the problem I'm talking about. You don't know what you don't know.

Whether the teachers are good or have good resources or have a class too heterogeneous to teach effectively is a different matter. But people who assume they know so much more than the experts need a humility and reality check.

Re:America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries... by esaym on Friday March 11, 2016 @11:37AM (#11267609)
As my grandfather once said:

  "Those that can work, work. Those that can't, teach."
Re:America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries... by restalis on Friday March 11, 2016 @12:47PM (#11268178)
I may get down-voted for this, but here it goes...

Parenting rights can be revoked if there is enough evidence of potential damage to be inflicted upon the subjected children. I think the same should go for a lot of other things. People should not be let to freely teach or heal or whatnot without some minimum qualification when stakes are high enough, even it it's about their own children. Not when an actual free and qualified alternative option is available. You think you know better for your children, but if your children get damaged it's the society that will support the consequences when they'll grow up. The freedom to inflict damage upon others has to be limited even when others are our own children.