Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch

Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by x1798DE on Thursday March 10, 2016 @06:38PM (#11263459)

Yeah I just installed Ubuntu anyway because I like the unix utilities. I agree that eventually it will be too dangerous or difficult to use Windows 7, though for now it's probably serviceable.

I personally find the Windows 8+ UI execrable, but mostly my strong distaste for Windows 10 is driven by the cloud driven nature.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by yuhong on Thursday March 10, 2016 @06:41PM (#11263471)

Do you mean Windows as a Service or something else?

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by ploxiln on Thursday March 10, 2016 @07:31PM (#11263712)

He might mean "uncontrollable feature-change updates indefinitely". That includes nagging for reboots, and if you're not present at the computer I hope you didn't have any long-running jobs in progress. Windows 10 is almost a webapp, in that you're always on the current version, whatever that is, hope you like it. That's my reason anyway.

The fact that I have to manually uninstall and hide some individual cryptically-number-coded windows updates on windows 7 in order to get rid of nagging to install windows 10 in the taskbar and in the windows update control-panel makes me frankly scared to give any more update control to Microsoft.

Since Windows 7 still gets security updates and I only use it for games, I have a few years before I need to figure out the next step.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by KirinDave on Thursday March 10, 2016 @07:34PM (#11263727)

And Ubuntu doesn't have requirements for reboot and upgrade cycles in perpetuity?

I mean... it does. Oh, and the kernel installer script still doesn't purge old builds so periodically your updates will still stop working on LTS. It's silly.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by ploxiln on Thursday March 10, 2016 @07:36PM (#11263741)

You can control when updates are installed and when you reboot. I may wait a day or two depending on what I'm in the middle of. Or you could wait a week. Or install the next stable (but not LTS) release in 6 months. Or wait for the next LTS release in 2 years. Or wait up to 5 years! Windows 10 is the last version of windows, there will not be an option to install Windows 11 at your leisure, you'll just have it when you wake up your computer the next day (though it'll be called windows 10).

Also, with ubuntu and most linux distros you can pin certain core packages at certain versions if you need.

Also, if you mean the desktop-notifications for updates and upgrades and such, you can uninstall all that and just use apt-get manually.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by KirinDave on Monday March 14, 2016 @01:27PM (#11284094)

No. I mean the default ubuntu install still has a microscopic /boot partition which fills up and kills your OS's ability to upgrade and also the only way to fix it is an arcane script that no normal user understands.

I mean I was a professional perl programmer and I barely understand what the commands it recommended I run were doing, it is so golfed. And as for why I had to run them from the terminal? DESKTOP LINUX!

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by stordoff on Thursday March 10, 2016 @11:13PM (#11264609)

In every previous version of Windows I've used, and in Ubuntu, you could delay updates until you were ready to reboot. Windows 10 has a "Notify to schedule restart" option, but it actually means we'll schedule a restart when we see fit and give you a notification if you need to change it. If you miss that notification, your PC will reboot (probably overnight) without warning (I've had multiple overnight jobs cancelled by unexpected updates).

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by Silhouette on Friday March 11, 2016 @12:33AM (#11264832)

In every previous version of Windows I've used, and in Ubuntu, you could delay updates until you were ready to reboot.

In every previous version of Windows, you weren't forced to install updates at all.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by nightski on Friday March 11, 2016 @01:33AM (#11265005)

If it really means that much to you there is a simple group policy option to change this. It takes all of 15 seconds to change.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by stordoff on Saturday March 12, 2016 @03:27PM (#11274379)

Thanks, that actually helps a lot. I'd dug around in Settings and Control Panel, but never thought to check group policy.

The default/visible options still rub me the wrong way, but at least that option exists somewhere.

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Re:Microsoft embeds nagware into IE patch by yuhong on Thursday March 10, 2016 @07:35PM (#11263732)

Of course, but OP was talking about Win10-style forced updates that is part of the "Windows as a Service" that I mentioned.

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