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Re:Statisticians Find They Can Agree: It’s Time to Stop Misu... by nonbel on Monday March 07, 2016 @03:19PM (#11241310)
>"Statistical significance has NOTHING to do with magnitude of difference!"

Here is the equation for a t-statistic (used for the common t-test):

d=mean(a)-mean(b)

s=sqrt(var(a) + var(b))/sqrt(n)

t=d/s

I see the magnitude of difference (d) right in the numerator. The t-value is then compared to the t-distribution to get the tail probability.

Re:Statisticians Find They Can Agree: It’s Time to Stop Misu... by xtacy on Monday March 07, 2016 @03:37PM (#11241427)
You are also normalising the difference by the variance, so the t-statistic has no units.
Re:Statisticians Find They Can Agree: It’s Time to Stop Misu... by nonbel on Monday March 07, 2016 @04:22PM (#11241799)
The claim the significance has nothing to do with the magnitude of a difference is just wrong though. It clearly does, this information is just merged with other information about the variance and sample size to get the p-value, which is compared to a threshold to get significance.
Re:Statisticians Find They Can Agree: It’s Time to Stop Misu... by xtacy on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @12:47AM (#11243740)
I think what the article meant to say was that, for the same number of samples, the p-value when you have delta=50 (the difference between groups), stdev=10 is the same as the p-value of delta=0.5, stdev=0.1.

Depending on the study, finding a delta whose p-value is significant does not necessarily mean that the size of the effect (i.e., delta) might be significant enough to be useful.

Re:Statisticians Find They Can Agree: It’s Time to Stop Misu... by yoplait_ on Monday March 07, 2016 @04:47PM (#11241993)
it's not "just wrong". On the contrary, it is asymptotically true. In a world of abundant data, that matters.
Re:Statisticians Find They Can Agree: It’s Time to Stop Misu... by nonbel on Monday March 07, 2016 @07:18PM (#11242757)
Please expand on this.