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Re:How a Radical Shift to "Self-Management" Left Zappos Reeling by IgorPartola on Monday March 07, 2016 @12:30PM (#11240127)
I can't tell if it's brave of Zappos to experiment with different company structures, or foolish. I can't imagine this holocracy thing working long term. It's a system, which means it can be exploited. Favoritism is one way. Besides, saying that everyone is equal just means that there is no explicitly defined power dynamic. Don't be fooled: just because you are told that as a brand new employee you are equal to the senior-most team member who is also the "team link" or whatever, you are in fact not. It's just that this way the person who is actually more powerful in the organization to you will have to exercise that power differently. Then again, the "normal" corporate structure is less than ideal, to put it generously. Perhaps we need this type of innovation. Personally, I wouldn't bet my whole business on it, instead maybe having a small subset of the company doing these types of experiments.

What I do know for sure is this: I have never been a Zappos customer and am not planning on it. All these experiments seem to be leaving them with prices that are just much higher than alternatives. Even their parent company, Amazon, often has better prices on similar products.

Re:How a Radical Shift to "Self-Management" Left Zappos Reeling by flush on Monday March 07, 2016 @12:55PM (#11240290)
I think it's both brave and foolish.

Zappos has been very successful and had a clear positive trajectory before holacracy/Teal. Clearly foolish to jeopardize that to such a degree!

At the same time, you may believe that a new system could truly pay off and take you to the Next Level. Maybe there would be a temporary setback, but you have to grit your teeth and believe in your reasoning that it will work out in the end, better than had you kept the status quo.

I can't help but think of Hsieh as a kind of artist. He isn't trying to just make money or "be successful" like most people. He wants to create something new and exceptional. And will reach for it while paying little mind to the risks.

Re:How a Radical Shift to "Self-Management" Left Zappos Reeling by michaelchisari on Monday March 07, 2016 @01:27PM (#11240515)
Starting with a single department as a test case, and then moving out from there probably would have been a way to meet foolish and brave inbetween.
Re:How a Radical Shift to "Self-Management" Left Zappos Reeling by jcoffland on Monday March 07, 2016 @01:47PM (#11240653)
That's actually exactly what they did. If you read the whole article they started with the HR department.