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Re:Dsxyliea by mchaver on Thursday March 03, 2016 @09:50PM (#11221750)
I would guess part of the reason why native speakers (and probably fluent speakers) can read that text is because of linguistics probability (Bayesian probability). Humans seem to use probability of phrases to fill in blanks in speech/reading.

For example, if you see/hear the phrase "I am" there is a pretty high chance that the next word is one of the following: an adjective, the person's name, a/an or here because of syntax. Or if someone says "would you like a cup of", you can guess that the next word is likely some sort of liquid because that is what goes in a cup. Similarly, you can sometimes finish other people's sentences because of probability.

The word scrambling breaks down, as mentioned in the link, with ambiguous words where changing the order makes it look like another word and unfamiliar words.

Re:Dsxyliea by marincounty on Thursday March 03, 2016 @11:21PM (#11222029)
I don't know why most people can read scrambled words. I have no proof to what I am going to propose.

I had a horrid time learning how to read. I had a worse time learning how to spell.

It all changed around the end of 3rd grade. What changed! I just memorized what the words looked like visually. You could misspell a word/words, and it didn't matter. I was looking at what a word looked like visually. Even now, I have no problem understands typos/misspelling, and never see the need to correct someone.

I have a feeling there are many people out there who are reading like myself. I don't know, just have a feeling. I do transpose letters in in writing, but I don't think I'm I have dyslexia.

Once I realized my process of reading, I caught up to the other kids. I say my process. It's probably everyone's process. I really don't know. All I know is the way I was taught to read was useless. I was never taught how to memorize, other than route repetition. Route repetition didn't work for myself. Even today I know what 8 X 8 is by visualizing the 64.

It looks like most of you breezed through high school, and college. So you don't need to know what helped me.

What helped me in learning was visualizing. In college, I took notes once. I tried to make each page look visually different. I usually drew doodles, or detailed drawings all over the pages. For instance, when I needed to memoririze all the parts of the Femur bone, I drew the bone on the page and labeled all the areas I needed to know. Even years later, I can bring up that page in my head. And no, I don't have a idetic memory. It's just the way I got through school.

I definetly had a learning problem. The specialists at the time offered no help.

I got off topic, but if you have, or know of a kid who's not keeping up in school, pass on this visualization method. It's simple. You don't need to pay for a course. It's easy concept.

(By the way, I'm still not a natural reader. I'm not the guy who can just pick up a book(fiction), and zip through it. I find myself losing my place on the page. I sometimes need to put my finger on the line I'm reading. My mind starts to wander. Although, if the author is a skilled writer, like Nabrakov; I have no problem getting through the book?

I don't have this problem when reading most non-fiction? It could be I just don't like a lot of fiction?)

Re:Dsxyliea by stephengillie on Friday March 04, 2016 @02:37AM (#11222523)
°°°[ This sounds much like an ancient method for politicians and other public speakers to remember their speeches in the days before paper and literacy were so common - they would visualize their speech as a house, and every topic is another room. Giving their speech was as simple as waking thru all the rooms in the house they imagined. ]°°°

>>>[ Do words of different colors help you visualize the differences? Like how some IDEs highlight a languages keywords or italicize comments? ]<<<

===[ Also, have a visual reminder of this comment. ]===

Re:Dsxyliea by Aissen on Friday March 04, 2016 @04:01AM (#11222739)
Actually, this has a name in neuro-psychology: Method of loci https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

It's actually fairly ancient, and unfortunately not studied enough.

Re:Dsxyliea by digitalengineer on Friday March 04, 2016 @04:28AM (#11222813)
Except.. it is! By a fairly 'ancient' group of men: "I want to make clear to you is that such memory training techniques are not new. Whether used by actors, students, public speakers or Freemasons, some techniques go back to antiquity. Before the invention of printing, when manuscripts had to be copied by hand, writing materials were scarce and expensive, and many could not read and write, a trained memory was a valuable asset. Thus, ancient orators, aided by teachers of rhetoric, taught techniques enabling orators, politicians, priests, and others to memorize large amounts of material in great detail."

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/memory-freemasonry.htm...

Re:Dsxyliea by Aissen on Friday March 04, 2016 @06:23AM (#11223078)
It is in fact studied, and I admit my "not studied enough" remark is indeed, wrong. There were about 150 papers citing method of loci since 2015: https://scholar.google.fr/scholar?as_ylo=2015&q=%22method+of...
Re:Dsxyliea by e12e on Friday March 04, 2016 @01:04AM (#11222307)
Interesting. AFAIK, your self-discovered process of memorizing "word images" is exactly what is recommended as a help for teaching dyslexics. Eg: I've heard it described as holding up a word at a time, and asking the learner to mentally "take a picture" by blinking their eyes, or looking off the page.

On the other side, AFAIK, most "normal" readers also read "word images" (once one is beyond the point of spelling out words as one reads) -- which is why most can read words that are partially misspelled (up to a point).

Re:Dsxyliea by nfd on Friday March 04, 2016 @12:39AM (#11222227)
Weird. If you natively visualize things, I natively reduce them to text. It's damn hard for me to remember the fine details of an image, but I can remember a description. And I zip through most reading material really quickly, unless it's really verbose or overly purpled.
Re:Dsxyliea by mchaver on Friday March 04, 2016 @01:46AM (#11222398)
I think words as images is also a common strategy for reading. That's why designers say signs in all capital letters take longer to read than signs with lowercase or standard capitalization practices because we remember the shape of the words in more common form (Turn Left or turn left vs. TURN LEFT).
Re:Dsxyliea by chris_wot on Friday March 04, 2016 @08:37AM (#11223590)
If you think that's weird, I find that I fill in missing words.
Re:Dsxyliea by tkinom on Thursday March 03, 2016 @10:11PM (#11221833)
I am pretty sure I am dyslexic. My favour slogan is "Dyslexic of the World Untie!"
Re:Dsxyliea by estefan on Friday March 04, 2016 @06:04AM (#11223024)
Just don't send your Christmas wishlist to Satan...