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Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by bkor on Thursday March 03, 2016 @05:21PM (#11220521)
This story is pretty sensationalized.

1. A container shipping company does not store the bar code of crates/packages. I've easily read 100s of booking details and never seen this. At most you maybe find one booking where the customer gave too much info and the customer service person copy/pasted too much. Anyway, either the article is talking about the container number or the hacked company is a logistics company.

2. If it is a logistics company, they wouldn't know exactly where the container is on the vessel. You can ask "above/below deck", but exact details aren't normally shared. You'd need to hack two companies if the pirates behaved like the article suggests.

3. Boarding a container ship isn't that easy as a lot of them are huge.

4. A container might just be reachable. Hint: For some commodities special care is taken to ensure that the vessel crew can still reach it. It's much easier to target a container after it has left a terminal and is e.g. on a truck. Note that even with full access it is better to somehow takeover a truck than to pick it up yourself; they check and your identification (passport/drivers license) when you pick up.

At most this might be about some logistics company that uses small vessels. E.g. intra Asia trade. Any big company I would be surprised if the hackers would make sense of all the systems :-P

That said, every so often you do see news articles whereby someone within either customs or a shipping company sells the details to others. Those others then steal the goods. But not by boarding vessels though, they takeover the truck.

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by chockablock on Thursday March 03, 2016 @06:03PM (#11220752)
So, you're claiming the story is fabricated?

Quoting: "They’d board a vessel, locate by bar code specific sought-after crates containing valuables, steal the contents of that crate—and that crate only—and then depart the vessel without further incident."

You can download the Verizon report (that is the source for this article) here: http://www.verizonenterprise.com/resources/reports/rp_data-b...

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by bkor on Thursday March 03, 2016 @06:20PM (#11220839)
No, I'm saying the details aren't correct. I never implied fabricated, so unsure why you're suggesting this.

From reading the report it seems they confused container numbers with crate bar codes.

This bit: "They’d board a vessel, locate by bar code specific sought-after crates containing valuables, steal the contents of that crate—and that crate only—and then depart the vessel without further incident."

When you board a vessel with container numbers, you don't see crates. However, you can find the container then search through the container and determine the crate. But the crate bar code? That's incorrect. A bill of lading will show the crate contents as well as its container number. It does NOT contain a bar code.

The PDF is obviously a marketing piece; it is not surprising some details are incorrect.

If you ignore the bar code part, then yeah, if the target was a shipping company then you could determine the contents of containers within reach and what is in them. Still need to go through the container though.

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by DrScump on Thursday March 03, 2016 @07:37PM (#11221153)
They may have just confused "crate" shipping (some small-scale local deal) with container shipping. It's hard to tell; the link to the claimed source goes nowhere, and a look at the current version of the named report (rp_data-breach-investigation-report-2015_en_xg.pdf, free download) says nothing about shipping piracy.
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by 8ig8 on Thursday March 03, 2016 @06:33PM (#11220892)
Those containers seem to be packed pretty tight. Even if you know which one had high value contents, is it even possible to access it within the stacks?
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by kijin on Thursday March 03, 2016 @09:22PM (#11221633)
It might not be too difficult if the entire container is filled with iPhones. Doesn't matter which iPhone you steal.

Or just get a few men to throw overboard anything you're not interested in. A pirate has no obligation to leave his crime scene well-organized.

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by orbitingpluto on Thursday March 03, 2016 @10:12PM (#11221842)
This sort of stuff does happen. I knew of one company whose insurance limits them to something like 20 containers per vessel. During the Han lunar new year they the would place as many as 35 onto a single ship. One of these would be bound to be on top, especially if you can somehow determine when they entered the loading dock relative to other containers on the vessel. They'd probably get zero coverage once the insurer found out they'd overloaded too.

"Hacking" might not be an appropriate term here though. Most shipping website security is beyond awful. I've used Selenium to pull stuff off of shipping sites before as APIs are almost non-existent. When they do exist, they return fixed length text that you have to decode or you're using something archaic like automated email replies when you email a container number to them. (I have sent thousands of emails in a five minute period to a single VOCC to figure out if they were actually the ones shipping something and where the cargo is.) Lastly I've actually sent emails to website support on tracking sites telling them they weren't sanitizing inputs at all. Zero interest or chest pounding brush off reply.

As for barcodes, they probably mean shipping container number (ISO 6346 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_6346).

Now all you need are pirates with a Russian Mil Mi-26 to dig for the buried treasure on the vessel while at sea (like in William Gibson's Spook Country)

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by SixSigma on Friday March 04, 2016 @03:53AM (#11222718)
I'm under the impression that stuff small and valuable like iPhones are transported by plane but that still leaves plenty of targets.
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by reitoei on Friday March 04, 2016 @05:14AM (#11222904)
> I'm under the impression that stuff small and valuable like iPhones are transported by plane

That's not how freight works.

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by SixSigma on Friday March 04, 2016 @08:26AM (#11223544)
FedEx ships Apple handsets to the U.S. mainly using Boeing 777s [1]

Jan 2015 saw 17 billion Air Freight Kilometers available but with utilisation running at about 46% - most routes only have freight used one way [2]

[1] http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/11/how-apple-ships-millions...

[2] http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/Documents/economics/freight-ana...

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by Nimitz14 on Friday March 04, 2016 @07:35AM (#11223332)
I'm no expert on the subject, but the term 'air freight' does exist, as well as many articles discussing the pros and cons of transporting cargo by air vs by sea. Google it.
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by hollerith on Friday March 04, 2016 @05:23AM (#11222920)
Are you sure?

When we ordered an iPad from Apple in 2011, it got handed to one of the big delivery companies (FedEx?) in China, then got put on a plane to the US.

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by reitoei on Friday March 04, 2016 @06:14AM (#11223049)
'Freight' generally implies the bulk transportation of large quantities of goods. When you said 'small stuff', I didn't realize you meant small quantities of stuff.
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by culturestate on Friday March 04, 2016 @05:38AM (#11222954)
iPhones and iPads aren't really great examples in this space, because they're often sold before they even come off the assembly line. Apple chooses air freight for (many of) its products simply because that's the most efficient way to operate its particular supply chain.
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by reitoei on Friday March 04, 2016 @09:25AM (#11223856)
Mea culpa, you're right, they do ship mostly using air freight.
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by woah on Thursday March 03, 2016 @06:00PM (#11220736)
You're saying that the entire story is fabricated?
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by nxzero on Thursday March 03, 2016 @06:12PM (#11220807)
Love how you're giving "hint" on how capture goods in service; either you have: (1) done this, which brings into question why in the world you publicly mention this; (2) done or read about it, which if so, why not provide your sources; (3) done logistics related security, which should be stated; (4) a theorists. What exactly is your experience in the real world on the topic?
Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by medecau on Friday March 04, 2016 @04:04AM (#11222753)
What's easiest?

- stop a truck on a highway; take the driver out of the truck; drive off.

- board a container ship; track the targeted container; steal the contents; leave with cargo in high sea.

Sources?

Here you go: https://www.google.com/search?q=highway+truck+heist

Re:Pirates hack into shipping company’s servers to identify ... by trelltron on Friday March 04, 2016 @05:14AM (#11222905)
Sure, if you mis-frame it like this then the truck option looks better. But then, most crimes are actually really easy to pull off.

It's what comes after the crime that actually matters, and I feel like the whole 'escape with the booty' part could be much easier at sea.