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Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by kogir on Friday February 12, 2010 @03:48PM (#1121728)
Yes, but if it's in your house, you at least know it happened and can try and fight it. If google hands over your data you may never know. I think in many cases they'd likely be barred from telling you even if they wanted to.

Note: IANAL

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Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by jrockway on Friday February 12, 2010 @05:08PM (#1121930)
Yes, good point. And if the disks are encrypted, you will definitely know about it, because they won't be getting any data without you. (Unless the email police broke AES or the key-strengthening algorithm and haven't told anyone yet. This is unlikely, however.)
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Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by drusenko on Friday February 12, 2010 @06:32PM (#1122137)
On the other hand, Google has a lot of resources and lawyers to fight off the government if they come knocking, and they've been known to fight to the max in the past.

You? Not so much. If the FBI shows up at your door, you're toast.

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Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by jrockway on Friday February 12, 2010 @10:46PM (#1122496)
Like this guy? http://w2.eff.org/legal/cases/SJG/

(Hint: the opposite. The government had to pay him damages for seizing his computers.)

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Re:Ask HN: Gmail alternatives? by johSho7w on Friday February 12, 2010 @11:41PM (#1122554)
I was skeptical but I'm really swayed by a victory that occured six years prior to the PATRIOT act.
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