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Re:WordPress is not easy by CM30 on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:10PM (#11192833)
On another note, the first few points all being web hosting related make me think about how much of an utter pain hosting is in general. Seriously, the hosting world has to be the most screwed up part of the internet, especially when it comes down to jumping through the hoops put in place by different companies and shopping around in an industry where everyone seems to be trying to rip off everyone else.

But I'd say WordPress itself is pretty easy, at least if you're sticking to well known plugins and the core features. Just needs to have the options and text reworded a bit to make things a bit clearer for someone who's never used a CMS before.

Re:WordPress is not easy by vatotemking on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:38PM (#11192932)
I dont know about you but I'm totally happy with my A Small Orange shared hosting. Then there's Digital Ocean if you want full control (VPS). The lowest tier is actually cheaper than shared hosting. I'd say, contrary to what you are saying, hosting is easier and there's more option nowadays. You just need to know where to look.
Re:WordPress is not easy by x5n1 on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:15PM (#11192855)
what is this "rip people off" non-sense. you mean make money. that's what everyone should be doing.

hosting is a race to the bottom sort of business. if someone can create some value in it and charge money from the consumer, they are not doing anything wrong and should be applauded.

Re:WordPress is not easy by CM30 on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:19PM (#11192867)
Have you looked for hosting recommendations recently? It's a huge line of affiliate sites pretending to be neutral while giving good reviews to whoever pays them the most.

And then there's EIG, which basically buys out everything in sight, pretends they're still independent and cuts costs at every opportunity.

Not to mention the people starting up hosting companies in the summer holidays, only to run them into the ground or shut down in a few months.

There's a difference between making money and trying to trick people with shoddy products and services.

Re:WordPress is not easy by x5n1 on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:24PM (#11192879)
Don't see this as tricking, it's marketing. EIG offers hosting for next to nothing, and you get what you pay for. If you customer wants to pay for value hosting they can find it by paying more. The other players you are talking about, I don't know how they get customers... it's not easy to get hosting customers, period.
Re:WordPress is not easy by CM30 on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:31PM (#11192906)
Well, they don't like telling anyone they bought out their provider, nor that it's the cause of a previously good service going downhill. The company buys out hosts offering a decent service at (sometimes) higher prices, then turns them into budget providers with low reliability while trying to keep the news on the low.

As for how the other guys get customers... Deals usually. Sometimes literally on web hosting forums, where they talk advantage of the offers section til they inevitably get banned.

Re:WordPress is not easy by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday February 28, 2016 @06:51PM (#11192968)
Things may have improved recently in the UK, but a couple of years ago it wasn't unheard of for hosting companies to charge significant release fees for domain transfers, and to delay transfers for weeks or months - sometimes for so long the national registrar had to get involved.

Another popular scam was to lock access to an account when a charging period expired so the owner couldn't access any domain transfer tools, and only allow access and transfers on payment of another full year of hosting.

It's a shady business. IMO there's no real reason why it should be.