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Re:Why Tech Degrees Are Not Putting More Blacks and Hispanic... by YeGoblynQueenne on Friday February 26, 2016 @06:22PM (#11185042)
Sorry to further dogpile on your comment, but I just realised what it is that bothers me with discussions of IQ and race: it's that IQ is a proxy. It's a stand-in for something we can't directly observe and therefore cannot measure, or even fully define.

Which means, it's _very_ difficult to see how "IQ" itself would be an inherited trait, seeing as it's not a trait at all. It's not even a thing at all. All that IQ is, entirely literally, is a score on some test that some people have taken.

I mean, I hope it's obvious how it's completely ridiculous to believe that you can pass on your score at a test to your offspring, right?

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Re:Why Tech Degrees Are Not Putting More Blacks and Hispanic... by YeGoblynQueenne on Saturday February 27, 2016 @05:24AM (#11186713)
I'm arguing the point, yes. I'm saying that IQ is an arbitrary measure and who knows what it's measuring. Others have pointed out that race is also an arbitrary category and that skin colour is not necessarily the same thing as having the same genetics.

So basically we have an arbitrary measure correlated with another arbitrary measure. We don't have much to draw firm conclusions on.

And that agrees with the other thing you bring up:

>> "Iq .. is a massive predictor for success in life."

That may just as well be an outcome of racial bias against non-whites in the US. In which case, IQ would be a pretty accurate measure of racial bias, but not of intelligence.

You're asking "so why do blacks score lower in IQ tests?". I'm answering: who knows why. The fact that they do means the test is probably broken, not that they're less intelligent for real.

Basically, any test result that just so happens to agree with some widely held societal belief should set the bias alarm off.