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Re:TTIP Enters New and Dangerous Stage as Democracy Is Disma... by Loughla on Thursday February 25, 2016 @10:58AM (#11175230)
This is not meant as an insult, really. You genuinely don't understand how politics works at all.

It's not just some idiot talking crap about something you're working on. This isn't a college project. It's someone putting your entire past, present, and future on television and the radio making false claims about you. It's someone making your personal information known publicly so you can receive threats. If you don't have the same dollars as the other guy, it's someone controlling the public narrative to paint you as Satan himself.

It's so much more in depth than taking valid criticism. YOU don't have to pay attention to them, as the person fronting the bill. But the 300,000,000 other people in the US will.

And then, right or wrong, good or bad, you lose. Again, not an insult, but yours is an unbelievably naive view of how politics works.

Re:TTIP Enters New and Dangerous Stage as Democracy Is Disma... by wfo on Thursday February 25, 2016 @11:30AM (#11175500)
What you've described is the case about any law or policy. And yet people debate them. Details of them. On the floor of congress, around the dinner table, on talk radio, on TV news, all the time. In public. And people don't whine and cry and complain about how mean voters are. Why should the corporate policymakers who write the TPP/TPIP get a special shield? Are they particularly sensitive and fragile as a class? Or are they writing laws that wouldn't survive a fraction of a second in public because they are corrupt and anti-citizen?

If you think people would get upset about trade policy, maybe you should look at issues that ARE debated in detail like abortion, gay marriage, gun control. People are murdered over these issues. Trade policy barely registers on the scale.

Re:TTIP Enters New and Dangerous Stage as Democracy Is Disma... by TheLogothete on Thursday February 25, 2016 @11:48AM (#11175660)
Really? People debate the negotiation of international treaties? Can you point 2 or 3, please, since my memory is not what it used to be.
Re:TTIP Enters New and Dangerous Stage as Democracy Is Disma... by wfo on Thursday February 25, 2016 @12:02PM (#11175795)
Again -- "People currently do not do this, ergo they should not" is not an argument.