Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc.

Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by agd on Thursday February 25, 2016 @10:10AM (#11174889)

Snowden was clear in his instructions that he didn't want a data dump as some of the info was legitimately secret.

Cryptome don't seem to accept this position. The question is do we say to whistleblowers 'it's all or nothing'. Would that really encourage more people to leak? Or do we work within these parameters?

Of course there are conflicts of interest and mistakes when only a few can access the material, but I'd much rather have a partial leak than no leak.

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Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by 2close4comfort on Thursday February 25, 2016 @10:37AM (#11175087)

It is hardly a leak of Glenn/Intercept keep them forever. That would go directly against what Cryptome has always believed. I would like to know how Snowden was connected to the people he eventually gave that information to, that in itself might prove interesting. It was not for their technical ability which does lead to the question how are they able to judge the suitability of what they release.

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Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by gherkin0 on Thursday February 25, 2016 @01:13PM (#11176380)

> I would like to know how Snowden was connected to the people he eventually gave that information to

Snowden selected Greenwald and Poitras and reached out to them via email:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-sno...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Contact_with_E...

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Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by 2close4comfort on Thursday February 25, 2016 @02:06PM (#11176874)

Do you think these were his 1st choices?

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Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by gherkin0 on Thursday February 25, 2016 @06:03PM (#11178558)

I have no idea, but the question was about "how he was connected" to the people he released the info to. The answer was: he wasn't until he made contact himself.

He must've made a list of journalists he knew of who he thought would be sympathetic to the message he wanted to send. Maybe Greenwald/Poitras weren't at the top of the list, but some quick Googling doesn't reveal anything about anyone else he may have tried to contact before them.

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Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by mirimir on Thursday February 25, 2016 @01:18PM (#11176421)

Yes. Snowden is an American patriot. Cryptome are extreme information-freedom fundamentalists. WikiLeaks is moderate by comparison, and vets stuff before publishing. But Snowden wanted vetting by professional journalists. So we have what we have. Bottom line, though: he got the stuff, so it's totally his call on how it gets released.

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Re:Cryptome’s critique of Snowden Inc. by flycaliguy on Thursday February 25, 2016 @03:31PM (#11177559)

This is just it. People seem to forget that Snowden is best viewed as an establishment figure who is trying to correct it's direction, not destroy it. Snowden's actions were a call to stop a surveillance state before the surveillance state stops everything.

Or he's CIA and this is all agency drama... Haven't decided yet.

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