Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack
by inopinatus on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @09:05PM
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We can still imagine a state actor spending the megadollars to research a reliable chip-cloning process, to bring parallel brute-forcing within reach. I wonder if the NSA have been on a SEM/FIB equipment buying spree lately.
The ultimate way to defeat physical or software attacks is to exploit intrinsic properties of the universe, which suggests finding a mathematical and/or quantum structure impervious to both.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack
by greendestiny_re on Thursday February 25, 2016 @01:59AM
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Your reply is the kind of comment I come to HN for - we've started off talking about mobile device security and ended up discussing unbreakable quantum encryption.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack
by cromwellian on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @07:39PM
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I'm speaking the case of the San Bernardino killers. Using strong alphanumeric pass phrases are anti-usability, the vast majority of people won't use them. Hell, the vast majority of people don't even have strong alphanumeric passwords on desktop services.
So it falls to either 2-factor or biometric to avoid PINs. Biometric of course has it's own problems.
Perhaps people should really carry around a Secure Enclave on a ring or something, and with a button to self-destruct it in case of emergency. (e.g. pinhole reset)
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack
by aianus on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @08:42PM
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You only need the strong alphanumeric pass phrases on device startup, then you can use TouchID. I bought an iPhone 6 for exactly this reason (employer required strong passphrase, was too annoying to type in on the Android device I had at the time).
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack
by majewsky on Thursday February 25, 2016 @04:24AM
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In a way, that's even worse. You're more likely to forget a complicated passphrase when you only have to type it in very seldomly.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack
by 4ad on Thursday February 25, 2016 @05:10AM
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You have to enter it every 48 hours.
On phones after the 5C, nothing you can do with the AP helps you here; the 10-strikes rule is enforced by the SE, which is a separate piece of hardware. It's true that if you can flip bits in the SE, you can influence its behavior. But whatever you do to extract or set bits in SE needs to not cause the SE to freak out and wipe keys.