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Re:Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client by Klathmon on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @04:17PM (#11170303)
But that's exactly my point!

When it's not something you want, it's to "Placate people". But if it was something you wanted, i'm sure it would be a welcome feature!

And it's not that complicated, just different.

Want a "traditional" list of interfaces? `ip addr`

Want to list running interfaces? `ip link ls up`

Want to set a device up/down? `ip link set dev {DEVICE} {up|down}`

Quick question! How do you set the MTU length in a legacy REHL system? Because with ip it's just `ip link set mtu 9000 dev eth0`!

Yeah, its new and will require some learning, but it's not inherently bad...

And talking about seasoned kernel devs, name one time that there wasn't a minority of kernel devs bitching about a new feature! Every change is going to make some people worse off.

Re:Dear Skype/Microsoft: Problems with Linux client by digi_owl on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @04:36PM (#11170428)
"just". Ifconfig gets the job done, unless RH has been odd selves again...

As for devs, Torvalds didn't have much love for the ip command last time i looked into things. And a year or so back i ran into a Ts'o posting about his dislike for polkit (a close cousin of systemd).