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Re:Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse by cygx on Sunday February 21, 2016 @08:35AM (#11144429)
To give an actual example, in Bosnia the leader of the Salafi movement has been arrested for recruiting for ISIS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Bosni%C4%87

Re:Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse by salafi on Sunday February 21, 2016 @09:06AM (#11144524)
He's far from being a Salafi. He's a Bin Laden sympathizer, for one.

Ask any mainstream Muslim who the Salafi scholars are in recent times and undoubtedly one of the first names mentioned would be the late Ibn Baz.

Ibn Baz was a harsh critic of Bin Laden and his ideology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Aziz_ibn_Baz#Osama_bin_...

Here is confirmation from Al Fawzan (the most-respected Saudi scholar now) regarding Ibn Baz's (and his own) position with respect to Bin Laden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-a65Og2uow

Here is a translated video that includes the speech of a late Yemeni scholar, Muqbil Al Wadi'ee, regarding Bin Laden. It's worth listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO7BcXTc4zw

My point is that anyone can call themselves or ascribe themselves to anything. However, that doesn't necessarily make it a reality (yeah, yeah, no true Scotsman).

Re:Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse by aback on Sunday February 21, 2016 @10:14AM (#11144792)
No true scotsman, indeed.

Counterargument: "No true Christian" could ever kill an enemy - Jesus was clear in this: turn the other cheek, die on the cross if need be, forgive 70 times 7 times, etc. In my sect, Christianity is totally pacifist. All true Christians are pacifists.

So there's no reason for any Muslim to harbor any enmity against any Christians, because no Christians have ever once harmed a Muslim (by my definition of Christians).

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And so we're back to square one, arguing over who's really a Scotsman....

Re:Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse by raverbashing on Sunday February 21, 2016 @10:23AM (#11144829)
> He's far from being a Salafi.

It's very funny how this usually ends with apologetic excuses

Actions speak louder than words, and there's an awful amount of Salafists preaching for ISIS

Details of religious cults are not interesting to me and I don't care what some guy in the desert (any of them) wrote in a book thousands of years ago.

Re:Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse by cygx on Sunday February 21, 2016 @09:26AM (#11144580)
yeah, yeah, no true Scotsman

This. From the outside, it looks like a conflict within Salafism.

It's hardly the only movement such things have happened to (eg revolutionary socialism vs reformist socialism).

Re:Washington Should Prepare for Saudi Arabia's Collapse by DonHopkins on Sunday February 21, 2016 @05:05PM (#11146839)
It's more a case of the more subtle, nuanced and trivial the differences are between two religious sects, the more vehemently they resent each other.