EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

Re:EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote by calpaterson on Saturday February 20, 2016 @02:49PM (#11141608)

Most of these ultimately come down to a Ship of Theseus problem - how many changes can something be subject to until it becomes a different thing altogether? Is the European Parliament of today really the same as the unelected body of 1962? Is the judicial system really the same one?

Clearly you think that it is the same body. I hope you can also see how others could be cynical about this expanded scope and view it as surprising and undesirable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

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Re:EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote by TazeTSchnitzel on Saturday February 20, 2016 @04:06PM (#11141962)

Yeah, I can understand that. Undoubtedly the EU has changed over time, and many people might not like those changes. I'm just suspicious of the claim that the EU is very different from the EC voted on in 1975. In some respects it is, but I feel it is misleading to look back and say it was just something like a loose free trade agreement. It was much more than that even when we originally joined, though it could be argued that the general public weren't very aware of it.

On the other hand, I don't know if the general public understands the EU now, either.

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