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Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by airless_bar on Saturday February 20, 2016 @08:52AM (#11140021)

    making me think that the supremely clever people behind 
    these projects (no sarcasm!) never experienced the pain 
    that comes from split ecosystems. Because if they had, 
    they wouldn't have started "cats" without getting 
    concensus first.
What consensus? Do you understand why cat needed to be created in the first place?

It was created because it was impossible to work with these terrible, obnoxious (ex-)Haskell people anymore.

The main change from scalaz to cats is not the code, but the community: Friendly people behaving like adults who don't act gravely offended when people discuss potential approaches which don't look like 100% what Haskell came up with.

I think scalaz will fall out of use mid-term, because everyone is sick of their shit behavior.

Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by lomnakkus on Friday February 26, 2016 @03:40PM (#11184054)
> What consensus? Do you understand why cat needed to be created in the first place?

Consensus as in: Get the approval of the community or at least lobby for the inclusion of Monad/Functor/etc. in the Scala standard library. My point was that the inclusion in the standard library is key to making Monad/Functor/etc. work. If you don't have that then you end up with the sad sad situation of monad-tf/monad-fd except this time it's not Transformers[1], but the fundamental Monad/Functor/etc.

As for the rest of your comment: ... WHAT?

[1] Which, to be fair, were fairly controversial at the time.

Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by tome on Saturday February 20, 2016 @08:59AM (#11140044)
No need to impune Haskell developers thanks. (Even if that wasn't your intention your comment does read that way.)
Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by airless_bar on Saturday February 20, 2016 @02:16PM (#11141441)
I'm just stating facts. No idea why these terrible people decided to join Scala in the first place. Maybe the Haskell community ejected them and they just picked their next community to harass?
Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by lomnakkus on Friday February 26, 2016 @03:42PM (#11184069)
Oh, fuck off.

You're complaining about "inclusiveness" and you say "terrible people" in the same breath. No. Fuck you, and fuck off.

Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by airless_bar on Friday February 26, 2016 @10:11PM (#11185908)
> You're complaining about "inclusiveness"

Where?

> No. Fuck you, and fuck off.

That's exactly the kind of immature behavior which is not welcome in the community. Please stay in the Haskell land.

Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by codygman on Saturday February 27, 2016 @02:31AM (#11186408)
Don't imply this behavior is welcome in Haskell land!
Re:Scala 2.12 roadmap by tome on Saturday February 27, 2016 @01:02PM (#11187832)
lomnakkus, I've never heard of you in the Haskell community, but if you do consider yourself part of our community then act more decently in future. You're giving us a bad name.