Protip: The note 4 has a wonderful camera and quite often goes on bargain basement sales. If you're OK with used, you can pick them up for a song on Swappa. Personally I wanted a note 4 since it came out, and I waited until after the Note 5 was out to buy it. I love it just as much as if I'd bought it when it was fresh (plus the new phones don't have removable batteries or microSD, and who wants that?)