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Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by Spooky23 on Friday February 19, 2016 @01:43PM (#11135536)
It's always better to have problems with somebody else's money when your contract scopes your liability narrowly. Even if I follow your advice and do A, B and C, D is still a problem that I need to deal with.

Case in point. I had a two-week hotel stay and facility booking at a resort on my AMEX. The hotel fucked up and double-charged me for the event -- to the tune of $20,000. Due to their obtuse bureaucracy and overall stupidity, it took two weeks to get the issue resolved.

In the debit card scenario, I'm stuck with a $20,000 liability immediately upon the hotel screwing up. I don't keep a five-figure balance in my checking account, so that's a problem until I notice that this event has happened. (Which I may not, because I'm on the beach enjoying my honeymoon and not checking my mail).

With the credit card scenario, I get back from the event, open my mail and discover a $40,000 bill instead of a $20,000 bill. Nothing is bounced, everyone is paid, nobody is angry at me. I make one phone call to AMEX, dispute it as a double charge, and my risk (and work) is done.

Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by pessimizer on Friday February 19, 2016 @01:54PM (#11135617)
Am I wrong, or wouldn't exceeding your credit limit have exactly the same effect?
Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by Spooky23 on Friday February 19, 2016 @02:37PM (#11135981)
Worst case, $50 fee or whatever, which would be waived during the dispute process.
Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by Retric on Friday February 19, 2016 @02:23PM (#11135870)
Having x credit limit costs vastly less than x cash in a checking account.
Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by pessimizer on Friday February 19, 2016 @02:39PM (#11136003)
What I meant is that if you have a lot of things scheduled to be withdrawn from your bank account, and some sort of fraud or double charging happens, chaos ensues (as above.)

If you had a bunch of things timed to be taken from a charge account, and you exceeded your credit limit because some sort of fraud or double charging happens, identical chaos would ensue.

edit: and there's certainly not a vast difference in carrying $20K of credit and $20K in cash. We live in a world of negative interest rates.

Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by Retric on Friday February 19, 2016 @03:17PM (#11136303)
Negative interest rates are a non issue if you have any debt, just pay down your house etc faster.

The problem is errors are random so your 'solution' is to keep huge amounts of cash in your checking account to deal with random error.

But, if I max a CC I would still have the cash in my checking account to pay other bills. If I don't have a CC and my checking account is empty I am going to have issues paying rent etc.

PS: Think of a CC as a financial firewall. You still need the cash to pay your bills, but keeping a redundant CC with an unused 15k credit limit is cheap.

Re:Why Don't People Manage Debt Better? by Spooky23 on Friday February 19, 2016 @02:59PM (#11136148)
That makes more sense.

Personally, I don't auto-pay everything. Stuff like sales tax, utilities (power, gas, water, cable), insurance, parking, car payments that isn't variable.