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Re:We're hearing about troubles at Nest by joering2 on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:55PM (#11106680)
I second your opinion about Tony Fadell. Worked indirectly on few projects he managed. Disgusting human being always looking at profits and cutting corners.

I recall one phone-meeting with engineer where he praised her for 10 minutes how great her programming skills were and how he "looks forward for many more years of working together". When the conversation was over, on the same breath, he told us (team of 5 in the meeting): "we need to replace her immediately - she's too expensive!". We looked at each other and felt really stupid. I don't think anyone of us ever been in such situation...

Re:We're hearing about troubles at Nest by toomanybeersies on Monday February 15, 2016 @09:56PM (#11107633)
Jesus. Cost cutting with engineers never works well.

Suits need to get out of the thinking that engineers/developers/designers are a liability to be minimised.

It's not just suits either, it seems to be most non-engineers, I've met people looking for web designers before and they've tried to go with the most cut rate designer they can find, and then they wonder why their websites look like shit.

Re:We're hearing about troubles at Nest by fiveguys94 on Tuesday February 16, 2016 @11:11PM (#11115232)
I never saw that at Apple. There were literally no budget restrictions on engineering as long as you got the job done.

Was that back in pre-Apple days?