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Re:Mac System 1.0 (1998) by Razengan on Sunday February 14, 2016 @01:27PM (#11099310)
I'm always impressed with how the Mac menu bar + Apple menu has remained in the same place since 1984 [1], performing pretty much the same functions for over 30 years!

Compare that to the lack of concrete UX decisions in the world's other major OS, unable to settle on a single menu style and so much flip-flopping on key features (cough-Start Menu-cough); removing them in one version and bringing them back in the next.

Is the Mac OS Menu a design that simply cannot be improved on, or are the users just not clamoring enough for a change?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_menu

Re:Mac System 1.0 (1998) by digi_owl on Sunday February 14, 2016 @01:57PM (#11099465)
I dunno. To me both the Apple bar and the MS bar do the same thing, offer a target in accordance to Fitts' Law.

While the layout of the menu itself changed some over the years, the base location in the bottom left has remained the same.

Even with Windows 8 you could get to the startscreen(?) by flicking the mouse to the bottom left corner. That would case a square to come into view holding a preview of said screen.

Re:Mac System 1.0 (1998) by cpeterso on Sunday February 14, 2016 @03:01PM (#11099717)
> both the Apple bar and the MS bar do the same thing, offer a target in accordance to Fitts' Law.

Not until Windows 2000. Prior to that, the Start button had a single "dead" pixel along the left and bottom sides of it in which clicking didn't open the Start menu. Microsoft design: it looks right, but it just doesn't quite work right.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jensenh/archive/2006/08/22/711808.as...

Re:Mac System 1.0 (1998) by digi_owl on Sunday February 14, 2016 @07:41PM (#11100808)
Been ages since i used the 9x series, so perhaps my hindsight is rose colored.
Re:Mac System 1.0 (1998) by pippy on Sunday February 14, 2016 @09:58PM (#11101276)
If it's not broken, don't muck around with it.

Though I think the Apple bar is starting to show its age with higher resolution screens becoming popular. With the latest macs, moving the cursor all the way across the screen is a bit tedious. Apple seemingly introduced wonky mouse acceleration to solve this, but it seems like they've introduced an extra problem.