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Re:What Little Babies See That We No Longer Can by kristopolous on Thursday February 11, 2016 @07:50AM (#11079788)
This is kinda the same thing as the himbu experiments - about how language and cultural taxonomy cause us to bucket things and then compare them on higher order dimensions.

With practice, you can turn this mechanism off and with sufficient focus and sincerity of purpose, see things without such taxonomy.

The extension of this exercise is when you are able to reconstitute things in different ways without necessarily any known categorical words.

De then re pattern things.

Re:What Little Babies See That We No Longer Can by aaron695 on Thursday February 11, 2016 @08:00AM (#11079832)
I think you'll find "language and cultural taxonomy cause us to bucket things" is mostly/all bunk.

The whole Eskimos have xxx words for snow BS goes along these lines as well.

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=17970

Re:What Little Babies See That We No Longer Can by kristopolous on Thursday February 11, 2016 @01:28PM (#11081927)
Are you making a counter claim that every language has the exact same number of words split the exact same way and that cultural context has absolutely zero bearing whatsoever in how events are seen or interpreted?
Re:What Little Babies See That We No Longer Can by aaron695 on Thursday February 11, 2016 @10:05PM (#11085032)
Yep. The essence in what you said.

Languages have different amount for the words snow, but it's not relevant to time in the environment AFAIK.

As long as you have snow, you'll be exposed to all forms hence similar amounts of names. England or Arctic. The increased exposure for the Inuit does not make for more words.

> cultural context has absolutely zero bearing whatsoever in how events are seen or interpreted.

As long as seen means by sight, and interpreted means lower level brain. And by zero you mean insignificant (Or way way less than these theories state.

Re:What Little Babies See That We No Longer Can by david927 on Thursday February 11, 2016 @10:11PM (#11085053)
I think if you research it more, you'll be surprised.
Re:What Little Babies See That We No Longer Can by aaron695 on Thursday February 11, 2016 @11:15PM (#11085259)
Universalism vs relativism.

What makes logical sense?

Language is used to describe the world around us seems very logical to me, it came second for starters.

If you want to go the other way, language shapes the world around us, actual evidence is needed for me.

It is full of "just so stories" which I find troubling. It's a meme that can spread without proper evidence beating a boring "language just describes things".