Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by masterzora on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:21PM
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> It is disingenuous and/or ignorant to suggest that temporarily loading an email into memory for the purpose of displaying it on the users screen [...]
I may be wrong, but I think they were referring to things like spam detection, malware detection, possibly search indexing, and such rather than just "temporarily loading an into memory for the purpose of displaying it."
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by cromwellian on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:30PM
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How do you run an efficient server-side search without maintaining a parsed index? I have 40,000 emails in my inbox. You want this to be linearly scanned everytime?
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by nyan4 on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:52PM
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Indexing for search != parsing for advertisement.
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by cromwellian on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @05:51PM
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Once you have to index or parse the email for search, it can no longer be stored as ciphertext, that is, end to end encryption interferes with search.
At best, you could search headers if they aren't encrypted.
Until a viable ciphertext search scheme arrives. (there are some, but everyone I've seen has some caveat or hole)
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by digdug2000 on Wednesday February 10, 2016 @03:13AM
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You could do everything client side as well and just store encrypted indices on the server. Probably not a good idea, but not the end of the world.
I don't think users actually care though. Google's attempt to redefine "end-to-end encryption" to include decrypting something mid route bothered me. This... meh.
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by Sir_Substance on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:40PM
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Yeah, I really do, it'd be funny as hell. Jesus fuck man, clean your inbox.
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by cromwellian on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @05:49PM
(#11069459)
My inbox is clean, those emails are archived. I still want to search them.
Re:Gmail Will Warn If Message Is Not Authenticated/Encrypted
by assocguilt on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @08:35PM
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Dude, never let anyone that has worked for GCHQ have another job! If the worked for the Gov then they must be evil!!! OMG!!!
Still no comment on Turing?
It is disingenuous and/or ignorant to suggest that temporarily loading an email into memory for the purpose of displaying it on the users screen is the same as parsing and catagorising the text and storing the results of the analysis in a database for the purpose of manipulating the user.