Re:Why are Americans so angry?
by AndrewUnmuted on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @12:13PM
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Each of the 50 states has individually enacted so many policies and regulations surrounding the means of production being NOT the property of the people. To unwind all of these laws and systems in place, not only will the nation face the most unbecoming administrative challenge ever undertaken by a modern nation; it would also require an outright de-ratification of the Constitution as a whole.
There is absolutely zero compatibility between Socialism and the US Constitution. Say what you will about either - they do not work together. Come back to this completely unrealistic idea in 100 years where there's a chance that social calamity has caused enough destruction that we finally let go of our founding documents. I think the likelihood of such an outcome is extremely unrealistic, though.
Re:Why are Americans so angry?
by vezzy-fnord on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @12:19PM
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There's also inherent tyranny-of-structurelessness issues that will arise from abolition of private property whereby certain members of an outwardly democratic cooperative will have more influence and significance than others, but whose de facto "ownership" will have no de jure significance, thus being easily denied and also inefficient since the law will not clearly delineate property lines when everything is meant to be "common".
So it's not the tenth amendment that conflicts with socialism? It's a variety of other laws and policies.
Yet you say that "there is absolutely zero compatibility between Socialism and the US Constitution", so perhaps you're thinking of one of the other amendments or some such? Perhaps something involving the protections on property.
Socialism: means of production as property of the people.
I don't see a contradiction.