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Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by greggman on Monday February 08, 2016 @08:18PM (#11062338)
> no-additional-cost professional-grade IDE since 2003

You paid for that by spending $XXX more than a PC on your Mac. (posted from a mac but I make no delusion that I didn't pay for XCode)

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by jjoonathan on Monday February 08, 2016 @09:50PM (#11062733)
That's exactly why I used the awkward phrase "no additional cost" rather than "free." Even if I hadn't chosen my words carefully, "delusion" would be a strong word for attacking something that I didn't explicitly claim.
Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by spronkey on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:01AM (#11064060)
MS has had express editions of their IDEs available for quite some time....
Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by vetinari on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @07:00AM (#11064705)
Express edition used to have crippled (non-optimizing) compilers.

The original free command line tools for VS2003, that got cancelled with first Express edition, and all Apple compilers were uncrippled.

Re:Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software by xuki on Monday February 08, 2016 @09:23PM (#11062615)
Every Apple user paid for that, so you're getting subsidized heavily by iPhone/iPad users.