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Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by toomuchtodo on Monday February 08, 2016 @12:09PM (#11059336)
> The solution here is to raise the fixed portion of the bill to cover the true cost of transmission, and then place a tax on those who go "off grid" to straight out subsidize the poor, so it's more obvious that is what is happening (And presumably most people would still support).

Its going to be untenable to tax someone for no longer using the electric utility (I'm revolted by that idea personally, and am pretty far left bleeding liberal).

You could possibly further subsidize low income electric consumers to have their own system installed using the federal general fund (solar installations receive a 30% tax credit; it might be possible to increase that credit to 50%-75% depending on your adjusted gross income, and have it be a rebate immediately applied at the time of system install).

Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by jedberg on Monday February 08, 2016 @12:18PM (#11059387)
> Its going to be untenable to tax someone for no longer using the electric utility (I'm revolted by that idea personally, and am pretty far left bleeding liberal).

Which is amusing, because you already pay the tax in the form of variable rate usage pricing that is higher than it needs to be. This is the problem with making hidden subsidies explicit -- people suddenly don't like the subsidy anymore.

Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by jstanley on Monday February 08, 2016 @12:25PM (#11059428)
If somebody is off-grid and not using the electric utility, they aren't paying any electric bill, so the variable rate is irrelevant?
Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by jedberg on Monday February 08, 2016 @12:33PM (#11059477)
That's the problem they're trying to fix with this change. As the wealthy, higher consumption customers move off grid, they system as a whole is loosing the subsidies for the poor. Even if you have solar, they power company still have to maintain transmission lines to your house and to the houses of poor people, which was being subsidized by they rich's usage.

So they are trying to stem the tide of the rich leaving by making them continue to bear the cost of subsidizing the poor.

Instead of playing games with those on solar, they should just straight up call it what it is so it is more explicit.

Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by crdoconnor on Monday February 08, 2016 @12:50PM (#11059604)
>So they are trying to stem the tide of the rich leaving by making them continue to bear the cost of subsidizing the poor.

No, they're trying to prevent competition. They run power plants too, and they'd rather you bought electricity from them rather than sold it to them.

That's why none of the power companies are advocating just removing the implicit environmental subsidy and allowing power to be sold back to them at wholesale rate.

They just want solar panels gone, period.

Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by prostoalex on Monday February 08, 2016 @02:56PM (#11060468)
How would this work in practice? Let's say I have a piece of land with a shed / cabin / old RV on it that's currently not using electricity, so there's no ongoing relationship with the utility company. If I were to place a solar panel on top of (or a diesel generator, or some kind of car battery hookup), there's a sudden requirement to start sending monthly checks to some entity?
Re:A battle over solar power in Nevada by Lawtonfogle on Monday February 08, 2016 @01:47PM (#11060049)
>Its going to be untenable to tax someone for no longer using the electric utility (I'm revolted by that idea personally, and am pretty far left bleeding liberal).

How is that worse than any other tax? You make a choice and the government charges you for making that choice.