Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by RobertKerans on Monday February 08, 2016 @07:43AM
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'Reportedly' being the operative word. And the reporting in question coming from (to be very charitable) slightly less than reliable sources. I get what you mean, it just doesn't seem to be reflected in actuality, and you have to be really careful here: those that support what you're saying are in large part from the far right of the political spectrum, often the extreme far right (eg Tommy Robinson), and figures they pull out are utterly suspect.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by hartpuff on Monday February 08, 2016 @07:31AM
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area#Contemporary_no-go_...
From your link:
Local police forces denied the claims [of no-
go areas]
Katie Hopkins could not name areas of Britain
that were no-go areas because it would not be
"legally accurate"
British Prime Minister David Cameron described
Steven Emerson as "clearly a complete idiot".
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by coldtea on Monday February 08, 2016 @02:55PM
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What else would "local police" do? Admit defeat? What the official police statements say, and reality on the streets for those living then can differ completely.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by hartpuff on Monday February 08, 2016 @10:13PM
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> What else would "local police" do? Admit defeat?
What else would they do if the claims are not true?
Either way, that instance was related to drug dealing, not Sharia law.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by _b8r0 on Monday February 08, 2016 @04:13AM
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[Citation Needed]
This (certainly as far as I'm aware) isn't true. The laws and courts of England and Wales apply in England and Wales, and the relevant local laws and courts (e.g. Scottish laws in Scotland etc) apply elsewhere in the UK.
In terms of Sharia, there is a voluntary arbitration system for civil issues as an alternative to the civil courts, the same as the Beth Din Jewish courts voluntarily used for Jewish civil issues in the UK.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by tachion on Monday February 08, 2016 @04:58AM
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I think he was talking more about places like Luton, where number of times it was reported as a hostile place for britons with a message of 'this is a muslim place now' and unlawful enforcement of sharia laws on common people.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by _b8r0 on Monday February 08, 2016 @06:30AM
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There are many reasons to consider Luton to be hostile to Britons (Ryanair and EasyJet customer service for example), but political Islam isn't one.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by foldr on Monday February 08, 2016 @06:01AM
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These claims reports are all complete nonsense and have been widely reported as such.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anders-breivik-trial-lu...
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by tachion on Monday February 08, 2016 @10:49AM
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Oh, and that too: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2519519/Muslim-Patro...
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by tachion on Monday February 08, 2016 @10:47AM
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It's quite funny to say so, especially I've seen a (BBC, I think) news/document about exactly such things happening. Unless of course it was all fake, and they all were actors or it wasnt in Luton...
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by foldr on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @02:38PM
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The daily mail article talks about two people who were arrested and charged for attempting to do this. Hardly evidence of a no go zone for police -- quite the opposite. You're repeating nonsense that's been widely debunked and not providing any sources.
Re:Disappointed with Europe, Thousands of Iraqi Migrants Ret...
by DanBC on Monday February 08, 2016 @06:02AM
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It might have been reported, but it never happened.
edit: I mean practically, not formally. It's enough that violations of host country's laws stay unreported and violations of whatever other norms are punished unofficially.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area#Contemporary_no-go_...
Getting people from oppressive cultures who end up living in isolation with others like them to suddenly start exercising their new rights is a hard problem which can't simply be wished out of existence.