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Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by userbinator on Sunday February 07, 2016 @11:49AM (#11053500)
The all_comments page was accessible from any browser, not even requiring JS. Now the only option is AJAX-loaded comments. IMHO it's another following of a sad trend to replace simple, reliable functionality with more complex and less accessible ones.

This reminds me of Twitter experimenting with full-AJAX loading of tweets a while ago...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1798891

...then reverting 2 years later:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3614037

Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by nvrsummer on Sunday February 07, 2016 @12:13PM (#11053630)
It is more effective bandwidth wise because the data can be limited based on connection speed. However a few things they are lacking is a page method where the user could jump to a certain page instead of having to click load more a handful of times to achieve the desired page. As well as having a back fall system for users with browsers that cannot support such functionality. It's a good feature just needs fine tuning to be considered a viable replacement.
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by userbinator on Sunday February 07, 2016 @12:20PM (#11053669)
It is more effective bandwidth wise because the data can be limited based on connection speed.

Forums since the early days of the Web could do this too - only showing the first n posts, and paging to let you view more. And they didn't require JavaScript or any of the other fancy new features browsers have today.

Edit: How much bandwidth would be taken up by loading a few hundred plaintext comments, keeping in mind this is a YouTube page containing an embedded video which will be at least an order of magnitude bigger?

As well as having a back fall system for users with browsers that cannot support such functionality.

That's what all_comments was.

Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by gleenn on Sunday February 07, 2016 @06:01PM (#11055412)
The video is on a cdn and is highly cacheable. The comments are highly dynamic and rely on far more db fetches presumably. You'll notice Google put these under the fold and dynamically ajax them in when you scroll down because they are probably actually expensive on the actual app servers or some resource. The devil is always in the details.
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by ppergame on Monday February 08, 2016 @12:58PM (#11059689)
The main resource is client bandwidth; it's preferable to spend it on loading media and not the below-the-fold comments.
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by nvrsummer on Sunday February 07, 2016 @08:14PM (#11055896)
You can transfer less through ajax and render using templates already on the client side instead of using unnecessary bandwidth... They are concerned about showing ALL comments at once I was referring to a paging system for a fall back system. I'm sure it's costing them more than necessary to be allowing all comments to return when you have an immense amount comments on a video.
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by ignoramous on Sunday February 07, 2016 @12:43PM (#11053786)
Pls read this rant (and do not take it personally): http://motherfuckingwebsite.com
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by mixedCase on Sunday February 07, 2016 @01:03PM (#11053885)
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by m_mueller on Sunday February 07, 2016 @11:59PM (#11056417)
Is there any research into less contrast being better? I keep trying to convince my boss that this is the case, but I can't find a study to back it up. My argument has always been that today's UIs are generally not using 100% contrast, so people set up their screen brightness to match that - when you then come with 100% black on white, it is too extreme on these same screen settings.
Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by rangibaby on Monday February 08, 2016 @02:18AM (#11056775)
I would explain it in terms of paper. I have yet to meet someone who illuminates paper by shining a bright white light from behind it. Instead it is lit by daylight or reading lights, which are often a shade that makes the paper seem pleasantly off-white.

It follows that making your computer or web design a slight off-white is easier on the eyes, particularly in the case of a text-heavy design.

Re:YouTube removes all_comments feature by manicdee on Sunday February 07, 2016 @06:41PM (#11055571)
Much better, thanks to actual margins so the text isn't all pressed up against the side of the browser window reminding you what a bezel is.