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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by coldtea on Saturday February 06, 2016 @09:42AM (#11047900)
>TouchID is the less secure authentication than password/PIN anyway (which is shown by the fact that you need to enter PIN/Pass right after boot).

The fact that you need to enter PIN right after boot, just shows that they use "two factor authentication" to make it even more secure.

It doesn't IN ANY WAY show that TouchID is "the less secure authentication" method of the two.

Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by germanier on Saturday February 06, 2016 @09:46AM (#11047913)
You can do anything you want on the phone without using Touch ID at all. The fingerprint sensor is not a necessary factor in their implementation, while the passcode is.
Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by mehrdada on Saturday February 06, 2016 @09:17PM (#11051210)
> You can do anything you want on the phone without using Touch ID at all

I believe ApplePay requires TouchID.

Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by germanier on Sunday February 07, 2016 @05:42PM (#11055320)
I can't try because Apple Pay isn't available here yet. According to this support document it works without Touch ID (emphasis mine):

> To help ensure the security of Apple Pay, you must have a passcode set on your device and, optionally, Touch ID. [...] To send your payment information, you must authenticate using Touch ID or your passcode.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203027

Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by dawnbreez on Saturday February 06, 2016 @11:29AM (#11048335)
Fingerprints are impossible to change and can be brute-forced. Therefore, fingerprint security is less secure than a password that can be changed.
Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by coldtea on Sunday February 07, 2016 @12:05PM (#11053592)
Brute forced with what? Trying different fingers?
Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by dawnbreez on Sunday February 07, 2016 @12:42PM (#11053779)
A fingerprint, like any piece of data, is handled at the lowest levels as a number. A number with some constraints, but a number.

By feeding numbers into the scanner instead of fingers, you can accomplish the same effect as feeding random strings into a password box. Further, it's also possible to take fingerprints through social engineering, or by getting at the database of a company that uses fingerprints as security. Five bucks says someone's already storing a bunch of fingerprint data as plaintext.

Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by coldtea on Sunday February 07, 2016 @01:37PM (#11054058)
>By feeding numbers into the scanner instead of fingers, you can accomplish the same effect as feeding random strings into a password box.

Isn't this exactly why they DON'T allow you to use the iPhone with a potentially tampered with HW/TouchID -- e.g. the very feature/issue we're discussing?

Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by dawnbreez on Monday February 08, 2016 @01:23PM (#11059883)
Well, yes.

I'd argue that fingerprints for security are just silly to begin with.