iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by Anderkent on Saturday February 06, 2016 @07:19AM (#11047449)

Your reading is correct. But there's always going to be people complaining about word choice even if your meaning is perfectly clear and inoffensive.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by jacquesm on Saturday February 06, 2016 @11:18AM (#11048285)

That may be true but it does not cost me anything at all to change the text so that it does not offend and in that sense it is an improvement.

At the same time I see HN slide towards reddit just one little bit more with all the 'you insensitive clod' comments lately and that is sad too.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by userbinator on Saturday February 06, 2016 @12:13PM (#11048568)

At the same time I see HN slide towards reddit just one little bit more with all the 'you insensitive clod' comments lately and that is sad too.

If you don't want HN to slide that way, then I suggest you not give in and change it back. After all, I think offense is entirely in the mind of the beholder.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by jacquesm on Saturday February 06, 2016 @02:42PM (#11049386)

> After all, I think offense is entirely in the mind of the beholder.

Especially when the beholder is not himself or herself part of the group.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by Luc on Saturday February 06, 2016 @12:01PM (#11048514)

I think it's worse than that, it's sliding towards Metafilter, where half the conversation is derailed by meta comments and whether it's appropriate to talk a certain way.

Screw that.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by baddox on Saturday February 06, 2016 @01:56PM (#11049141)

Of course, you'll only be changing text to accommodate people who are vocal about what offends them.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by minikites on Saturday February 06, 2016 @11:43AM (#11048408)

It's less about HN vs. reddit and more about society at large. What sorts of rude and derogatory words do you feel the need to say where you can't pick a synonym?

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by jacquesm on Saturday February 06, 2016 @11:55AM (#11048476)

I speak quite a few languages, and most of them badly, good enough for communications needs but not precise enough to win me any literary prizes. If we were having this discussion in Dutch I would definitely not pick on you for using words that may not be precise enough or that might be offensive to you simply because I'd assume that you must have learned your Dutch from other people speaking it and using it in your vicinity, coupled with media such as movies, books and so on.

I've seen the word 'retarded' used in the exact way I used it above in many places and I've checked the dictionary and it has a simply secondary definition ('Dumb, foolish') which is roughly what I intended to convey.

Since giving offense is not one of my pet hobbies I edited my comment but had the situation been reversed I would have definitely afforded you more leeway.

To me 'retarded' did not seem rude or derogatory until you pointed it out, judging by the number of other people that are actually native speakers that use it in that exact same way it seems to me that you have your work cut out for you.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by minikites on Saturday February 06, 2016 @12:46PM (#11048769)

I can appreciate the language barrier and I thank you for changing it when I pointed it out.

As for having my work cut out for me, I definitely expected this to happen (maybe not to this scale). HN tends to attract the kind of person who thinks that anything is fair to say any time, regardless of who it might hurt, because HN tends to attract people of massive privilege, many of whom have never been the victim of societal discrimination.

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Re:iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs by jacquesm on Saturday February 06, 2016 @07:16PM (#11050788)

This could go two ways. One way would be where people appreciate your efforts and change their tone. Another way this could go is that people will stop participating. Either way you will likely get what you want.

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