HN numbers over 20,000 people, more than 2,500 are 'regulars', #startups is about 100 people.

I didn't mean that they were the only people on the site, I meant that whatever the people on #startups are doing, they've been doing for a long time. Far from staging a coup, they're already an embedded power and have been a fundamental part of shaping the site into whatever it currently is.

Which I'm fine with. I've been much more disappointed with newbie contributions than anything I've noticed from the #startups crew. I don't want democracy here, I want quality.