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Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by rglullis on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:10AM (#11033966)
As much as most nerds would like to believe otherwise, people working with technology are not that different from other industries.

So most of us are subject to fashions and trends. And Java (the platform) is out of fashion* . Which is a pity. I've always disliked Java-the-Language, but kind of hoped some other languages would get first-class status there. By the time that those languages started showing up, I was already deep into Python, which has a flawed VM but a rich ecosystem and multiplatform.

* One of the biggest tells about JVM being seen as a "outdated" platform is that Javascript already had for a long time a JS implementation (Rhino) and it never got traction. It took node.js to come up and suddenly it became popular.

Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by rileymat2 on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:19AM (#11034023)
I am not a Java programmer, but I thought the platform was quite trendy in the form of Scala or Clojure.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by vorg on Friday February 05, 2016 @04:15AM (#11040403)
Yep. Scala and Clojure brought life back to the JVM, being JVM-friendly dialects of Haskell and Lisp respectively. If it weren't for them, the JVM would already be sinking under the oppressive weight of Java and Groovy.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by MrBuddyCasino on Thursday February 04, 2016 @10:57AM (#11034772)
This. Java (the platform) is absolutely not out of fashion, only Java (the language) is - though since Java8, this is not as pronounced anymore.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by jsight on Thursday February 04, 2016 @11:03AM (#11034827)
I think that the APIs behind Rhino were a real hindrance, as was performance.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack? by ashneo76 on Thursday February 04, 2016 @12:13PM (#11035399)
That and the SWT layer around it.