Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack?
by rileymat2 on Thursday February 04, 2016 @09:19AM
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I am not a Java programmer, but I thought the platform was quite trendy in the form of Scala or Clojure.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack?
by vorg on Friday February 05, 2016 @04:15AM
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Yep. Scala and Clojure brought life back to the JVM, being JVM-friendly dialects of Haskell and Lisp respectively. If it weren't for them, the JVM would already be sinking under the oppressive weight of Java and Groovy.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more web projects start with a JVM stack?
by MrBuddyCasino on Thursday February 04, 2016 @10:57AM
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This. Java (the platform) is absolutely not out of fashion, only Java (the language) is - though since Java8, this is not as pronounced anymore.
So most of us are subject to fashions and trends. And Java (the platform) is out of fashion* . Which is a pity. I've always disliked Java-the-Language, but kind of hoped some other languages would get first-class status there. By the time that those languages started showing up, I was already deep into Python, which has a flawed VM but a rich ecosystem and multiplatform.
* One of the biggest tells about JVM being seen as a "outdated" platform is that Javascript already had for a long time a JS implementation (Rhino) and it never got traction. It took node.js to come up and suddenly it became popular.