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Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by michaelkeenan on Thursday February 04, 2010 @12:19PM (#1100994)
Be polite! Polyamory is common enough among geeks and SF area types that there must be a few HN-reading polyamorists. It's brave of Pavlina to write about tabooed topics[1]. And it can't be any more fun for polyamorists to encounter incredulity and derision than it was for the first open homosexuals or interracial couples.

[1] cf. http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by pmichaud on Thursday February 04, 2010 @12:56PM (#1101097)
Tell me about it, we don't even have a movement. We're 50 years behind homosexuals in terms of rights and social acceptance. At least we're not killed for it.
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by nevinera on Thursday February 04, 2010 @02:06PM (#1101294)
I rely on safety in numbers!
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by yters on Thursday February 04, 2010 @09:48PM (#1102507)
Why doesn't everyone just cut to the chase and start an "I can have sex with anything and it's ok" movement?
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by silencio on Thursday February 04, 2010 @10:24PM (#1102590)
Because even if you try to make it clear that it's a consensual act (sex, relationship, whatever) between any group of people of age, the people against such a movement will claim that you are a pedophile, that it's against (insert some religion)'s beliefs for a union to be between more than two people, etc. The people who don't know better and don't think of polyamory as mainstream will find that emotionally appealing.

In the end you have a mess (see: same sex marriages today) where you think people should know better and realize this isn't about what's "right or wrong" to any individual on any level, but a matter of discrimination when it comes to benefits that are not being given to one group but to another. But they don't always know better.

In the US, we're barely scraping by trying to get the same benefits to gay couples, let alone any mix of more than two people. A movement to do what you suggest...I can't imagine what kind of uproar there will be and how many people will be conflating polyamory with polygamy and being very against it as a result. At the minimum.

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by jodrellblank on Thursday February 04, 2010 @03:11PM (#1101478)
Is it:

Geeks: Polyamory? -> {Manuel Garcia O'Kelly and his extended family, Moon Colonies, Heinlein, good associations}

Non-Geeks: Polyamory? -> {Hippy communes, commun...ism, cold war, evil, bad associations}

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by pyre on Thursday February 04, 2010 @03:26PM (#1101510)
> Non-Geeks: Polyamory? -> {Hippy communes, commun...ism, cold war, evil, bad associations}

Yes. Because that's what those Russians were doing on the other side of the Iron Curtain... having massive orgies.

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by camccann on Thursday February 04, 2010 @07:54PM (#1102261)
Yes. Because that's what those Russians were doing on the other side of the Iron Curtain... having massive orgies.

Well that does put a slightly different spin on "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need".

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by eru on Thursday February 04, 2010 @07:09PM (#1102136)
And those East-Germans, too. (Or at least lying naked on the beach.)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aki3...

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by Sukotto on Thursday February 04, 2010 @04:00PM (#1101594)
Polyamory gets a bad rep due to the highly sensational abuses reported the last few decades. Most recently, in Utah and Paris(?).
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by philwelch on Thursday February 04, 2010 @06:46PM (#1102065)
No, that's just old-fashioned polygamy. Fundamentalist Mormons and the like are not polyamorous.
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by fexl on Thursday February 04, 2010 @08:57PM (#1102411)
And the difference is what? Living under the same roof? Making babies? I'm asking seriously.
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by philwelch on Thursday February 04, 2010 @09:18PM (#1102445)
There's no set "rules" about being polyamorous, it's more of a community, but it's a community that doesn't include fundie Mormons and probably never will. They wouldn't fit in--polyamorous types are usually progressive vaguely-hippie types and the fundie Mormons are very traditional and quite frankly sexist (and don't always respect age of consent, etc., which polyamorous people do).

A lot of people have the idea that any type of polygamy is inherently sexist, and while that's true for traditional polygamy, it's also true for "traditional" monogamy. The historic Mormon polygamy that the fundamentalists get arrested for practicing was indeed sexist, but so were the 19th century monogamous marriages practiced by most other Americans. Contemporary monogamous marriages aren't nearly as sexist, and there's no reason contemporary polygamous arrangements--i.e. polyamory--are necessarily sexist, either.

Polyamory (and the various "open relationship"/non-monogamous lifestyles related to it) are less tied to the ritual of marriage and are often more equitable to women than traditional polygamy. I actually know some polyamorous people who live under the same roof and make babies, for instance. But some people just choose not to mind that much when their partners have sex with someone else, as long as it's safe and consensual. As I said, there's no set rules, other than it has to be safe, sane, and consensual for all parties involved. Which is worlds away from fundamentalist nutjobs in Utah marrying dozens of 13 year old girls.

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by pyre on Thursday February 04, 2010 @10:08PM (#1102553)
> polygamous arrangements--i.e. polyamory--are necessarily sexist, either.

What if people want to have multiple marriage partners? Wouldn't it be polygamy then?

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by philwelch on Thursday February 04, 2010 @11:35PM (#1102733)
Yes, but it wouldn't be old-fashioned polygamy.

For legal reasons, most polyamorous people separate their lifestyle from the legal institution of marriage. As another post implied, poly people are a few decades behind the gays in terms of social acceptance--it's not likely the marriage laws will be fixed enough for poly people to use them in the near future. (Lots of poly people are married, of course, but only to one person.)

"Polyamory" is kind of a neologism anyway. Kind of like when the gays decided to be "gay" instead of "homosexual". Polyamorous people are in fact polygamous in the sexual and romantic sense, but not in the technical sense of marriage.

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by pyre on Friday February 05, 2010 @01:39AM (#1102918)
Further thinking leads me to the conclusion that multiple partners in a legal union (i.e. marriage) would be unmanageable in our current system. If you had two wives, and they each had two husbands, then how would things like insurance coverage for partners work? How would insurance for children work (i.e. if your wife has a child with her other husband, then whose insurance would cover it)?
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by philwelch on Friday February 05, 2010 @12:40PM (#1104161)
Hm, you're probably right. The assumption of monogamy is a lot more prevalent and consequential than the assumption of heterosexuality as far as our marriage laws and customs go.
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by Sukotto on Friday February 05, 2010 @08:47AM (#1103510)
That's like Star Trek fans arguing over "Trekkie" vs "Trekker"
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by philwelch on Friday February 05, 2010 @05:28PM (#1105090)
Not really, since they're totally different communities, and as far as I know, the fundie-Mormons don't actually claim to be polyamorous. At the risk of coining another poor metaphor, it's more like the difference between kosher and halal--sure, in both cases you're not allowed to eat pork, but Muslims wouldn't care to say they keep kosher, Jews don't particularly care if their food is halal, and they're completely separate groups of people. And there's a lot of differences, too.
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by dnsworks on Thursday February 04, 2010 @07:47PM (#1102237)
Polyamory is perfect. I have a girlfriend. My girlfriend has a girlfriend. When I want to work late (my office is at home), she goes over to hang out with her girlfriend. I win.
Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by jmackinn on Thursday February 04, 2010 @05:54PM (#1101902)
Polygamy and Polyamory are very different concepts. I'm not which Steve Pavlina wrote about, but they are not the same thing.

In simple terms, Polyamory is the practice of open relationships, where Polygamy is the practice of having multiple married partners.

Re:How I Landed A $50/hr Side Gig With Little Effort by lsc on Monday February 08, 2010 @02:52AM (#1109307)
I actually find this kindof odd... I mean, not that I think there is anything wrong with Polyamory- it just, as my parents would say, requires "advanced relationship skills" - something that seems wouldn't be so common in geek culture. I mean, I don't know about you, but I have a hard enough time keeping a relationship with one other person going.