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Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by staunch on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:14PM (#10999647)
I didn't downvote you, but this is one of those ignorant arguments that only survives because it sounds clever.

1. You only need guns good enough to take over an armory.

2. There are tens of millions of armed veterans in the U.S, and most (if not all) active solders would side with The People.

3. Every rebel group in history has had lesser weapons at first (see: Rome's Servile Wars, American revolution, Cuban revolution, Afghanistan, Iraq, ISIS, Syria, etc).

Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by brandonmenc on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:22PM (#10999693)
Also:

4. Some portion of the military would join the civilians, and bring their military toys along for the fight.

Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by AnimalMuppet on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:45PM (#10999810)
I believe that your #4 is the same as staunch's #2.
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by staunch on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:46PM (#10999820)
My fault. I edited my comment before seeing his.
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by bcook on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:48PM (#10999830)
There have been revolutions that involved zero guns. The most vital part was people, not guns. My Glock still cannot offer the protection from "those in power" that many seem to think. 12 unarmed people could easily take my house over even if I was armed with my Glock.

Anyway, I think a revolution is a separate topic, but I could be wrong. There are many steps between government overreach & the people starting a revolution.

Edit: The quote by Patton comes to mind: "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory."

Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by st3v3r on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:18PM (#10999667)
Each of those groups was armed by another power at some point during the conflict.
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by staunch on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:21PM (#10999691)
That's not accurate, but even if it was, you now have to argue why this time would be different.
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by icebraining on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:25PM (#10999712)
The point is that personal gun ownership is irrelevant, if the government has the backing of the military, either you get some heavy weaponry from foreign powers or you're screwed.
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by AnimalMuppet on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:45PM (#10999819)
Personal gun ownership has been enough to get you to the point where you're still alive to get some heavy weaponry from foreign powers.
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by brandonmenc on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:48PM (#10999834)
Or you get heavy weaponry from sympathizers in the military - in the United States there would be many, were they ordered to fire on their own people.

I don't understand why opponents of the 2nd Amendment never consider this a possibility, when in fact the military not splintering under those conditions is the fantasy.

Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by icebraining on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:53PM (#10999858)
Why do you need the 2nd Amendment to get weapons smuggled by soldiers, though?
Re:Facebook Moves to Ban Private Gun Sales on Its Site by brandonmenc on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:57PM (#10999874)
Correct, you don't.

I was just pointing out that opponents of the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment being a counterweight to an oppressive government almost always say, "you can't fight the army with rifles!"

That argument is coming up a lot in this thread.