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Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by unethical_ban on Friday January 29, 2016 @01:26PM (#10997265)
In principle, I think Binge On is an example of poor net neutrality. It's a service provider engaging in a conflict of interest with content creators. I think those two roles should always be separate.

Similar to Comcast owning NBC and degrading performance of other streaming services: It's immoral. What T-Mo is doing is the same: They are charging you more to access your local music server, or your friend's startup, than they are for the 'big players' in the market. It's harmful in the long term.

Disclaimer: T-Mobile customer, current EFF contributor

Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by toomuchtodo on Friday January 29, 2016 @01:33PM (#10997331)
"They are charging you more to access your local music server, or your friend's startup, than they are for the 'big players' in the market."

That's the crux though, right? If they can make their network more efficient by offering services in specific ways that consumers can opt-out of, why shouldn't they be allowed to? Because we like the principal that all bits are equal, regardless of protocol, service, or network? Because that just ain't the case. It doesn't take a CCIE to tell you that.

EDIT: Yes, I agree that T-Mobile would be doing something "bad" if they were performing these activities for "real" anticompetitive purposes (promoting their own services, like AT&T and Comcast do). But if they're truly using it as a network management tool, which it appears they are based on the technical requirements, why should it not be allowed? Especially if you can opt-out?

Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by unethical_ban on Friday January 29, 2016 @03:03PM (#10998059)
So if T-Mobile had an open, technically feasible process by which any service could participate in the program given technical criteria, it would be a step in the right direction.

example: If product X can provide this many CDN nodes and this much peering directly to T-Mo, then they are allowed to participate in Binge-On.

Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by toomuchtodo on Friday January 29, 2016 @08:14PM (#10999955)
I agree with this. It's not about peering though, it's about limiting the bitrate of the video and music content.
Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by nitrogen on Friday January 29, 2016 @01:51PM (#10997500)
Because on the other side, not everyone can opt in. Also, it's misleading marketing.
Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by toomuchtodo on Friday January 29, 2016 @01:54PM (#10997525)
> Because on the other side, not everyone can opt in.

Can you provide evidence of this? That you're not permitted to opt in if you've met their technical guidelines?

> Also, it's misleading marketing.

Can you explain which part is misleading?

Re:T-Mobile’s Binge on Violates Key Net Neutrality Principle... by brtt on Friday January 29, 2016 @01:56PM (#10997544)
if it was opt-in (edit: for the consumer) instead does that change the argument in any way?

I remember that being a common recommended consideration when the program launched.